Colorado in the Yukon

[boxhitch]

http://www.heycoloradobuck.com/images/138220423152238.jpg

[MB_Boy]

Wow.....what a ram!!

[Weatherby Fan]

I believe that was taken last year ? yeh it's a dandy for sure.

[greatwhitehunter]

Wow that's quite the Kentucky water fall, too.

[Sofa King]

product placement ruins the whole shot.

[Twogunns]

He must do good banking.

[Yukon280]

I saw that little wanker prancing about downtown. Had no clue who he was, but the hair gives it away.
waste of a lovely ram on someone like him.

[howa1500]

Colorado buck is a douche

[gutpile]

Why is he a douche ?

[eric]

because some people are jealous,...maybe

[tuffteddyb]

He is a lot better than somme of the other t,v show hosts.

[howa1500]

Why is he a douche ?

He's another low morals TV hunter with terrible gun safety. He's been charged under the Lacey act and was banned from hunting in the US... Hence his worldwide travels...

[Yukon280]

because some people are jealous,...maybe
Jealous of what?
His cute hair? Dude, have you ever seen him? That guy is no Sheep hunter. A Sheep like that, to most of us "hunters" on the forum, is the ram of a lifetime. You'd work hard to get it, enjoy every bit of the hunt, and enjoy the meat the animal provided. You'd have that mount on your wall and remember it always. To a guy like that, its just another show. He probably rode the horse right up to it, he doesn't look very sweaty at all.
Guys like that give "real" hunters a bad name. Hunting porn. Give me the real mackoy anytime.

[Mighty Peace]

I believe his hunt can be watched on YouTube.

Sweet ram for sure.

Would be even better if it was a Resident or Non Resident (Canadian) hunter. Yes I am jealous for sure!!

[David Heitsman]

I sat at the table next to him in Reno last winter as we were receiving our Grand Slam awards and he was so excited. I thought it was wonderful when a pro hunter still gets jazzed over an accomplishment. I've been in camps with other TV hunters and they can be jaded and non-plussed by the experiences that are privileged to enjoy. Colorado was 10' tall.

[sheephunterab]

He's another low morals TV hunter with terrible gun safety. He's been charged under the Lacey act and was banned from hunting in the US... Hence his worldwide travels...

This from the Yukon regs "If the courts have banned you from hunting in another jurisdiction, you cannot acquire a Yukon hunting licence until you are eligible again for a hunting licence in that jurisdiction"

[Darksith]

This from the Yukon regs "If the courts have banned you from hunting in another jurisdiction, you cannot acquire a Yukon hunting licence until you are eligible again for a hunting licence in that jurisdiction"

does this apply to canadian jurisdictions only though? How would one police that clause...seems pretty tough

[tangozulu]

Seems like Yukon has been the go to place for big stones of late. Do the outfitters give these hunts away? If so they are nuts.

[Taylor329]

product placement ruins the whole shot.

Agreed, the box of shells and the logo in the corner are a bit of an eye sore.. Hell of a fannin ram though!

[bridger]

He's another low morals TV hunter with terrible gun safety. He's been charged under the Lacey act and was banned from hunting in the US... Hence his worldwide travels...
Do you have the details?

[bridger]

Seems like Yukon has been the go to place for big stones of late. Do the outfitters give these hunts away? If so they are nuts.

One of my outfitter friends told me this was a promo hunt. Thus free or on the cheap.

[bridger]

Did a quick google search on Colorado buck/Lacey act. Nothing come up lots on Spook Nation tho!

[bearvalley]

One of my outfitter friends told me this was a promo hunt. Thus free or on the cheap.

Rumour has it he owns a chunk of the outfit.

[1/2 slam]

Did a quick google search on Colorado buck/Lacey act. Nothing come up lots on Spook Nation tho!

I did the same and got the same results.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

I believe his hunt can be watched on YouTube.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyRa33d3C0g

[TARCHER]

I watched the episode with this hunt. Have to say I enjoyed it and don't mind him too much. I just take it with a grain of saly as we all know the $ spent on these productions. I gathered he is involved with some territory possibly including anchor bar expeditions, formerly lone wolf ??

[358mag]

Just another rich non resident trophy hunter
sure glad that wasn't filmed in BC .........

[TARCHER]

Just another rich non resident trophy hunter
sure glad that wasn't filmed in BC .........
Exactly. He really didn't work to hard for it. The outfitter had this Ram cased out long before and deals were made.

[TARCHER]

That said, if I had the $$$$$ I'd be up there too.

[guest]

Always Wondered if I could do a Muti-species hunt with some of my retirement package coming soon ........ doing my own access and drop camps with various Packers over the years has been Terrific, but my own backpacking makes it pretty tough for Multi -species and an older fart like me ( how the hell would I pack them all out ) that said, Yukon, NWT has always raised my brows ..... as I know darn well I wont be supporting the GOABC here in BC and thats for sure given their attitude to the BC Resident.

[Tīɡ]

All else aside it is a beautiful ram.

[Apolonius]

Last august i just happened up there.Had a drink with some people in the know.There was Colorado Buck…out there with a nice looking chick.Big boy.According to the Yukon "person" in the know ,it was the chick that shot the ram…..who knows.Beer talk….I haven't seen the video.He doesn't own part of the outfit.

[brno375]

Great ram.

[sheephunterab]

Last august i just happened up there.Had a drink with some people in the know.There was Colorado Buck…out there with a nice looking chick.Big boy.According to the Yukon "person" in the know ,it was the chick that shot the ram…..who knows.Beer talk….I haven't seen the video.He doesn't own part of the outfit.

I often find that people that claim to be in the know...rarely are.

[bearvalley]

I often find that people that claim to be in the know...rarely are.

Well said!

[Apolonius]

Very well said.Just beer talk i guess.

[David Heitsman]

Exactly. He really didn't work to hard for it. The outfitter had this Ram cased out long before and deals were made.

Not a chance! That ram is worth well over what it's hunter could have paid for it. That's a 6 figure sheep if marketed.

[Alfonz]

one story I have heard is that the new outfitter spent a bunch of time flying the new area with a helicopter looking the area over when they came across that ram. Apparently the pilot who was a Yukon resident hunter went back to that area they had seen it but was unable to locate that ram. The outfitter apparently was not too pleased when they found out that the guy they paid to fly them was in there to hunt it himself. Oh well:)

[Garret]

one story I have heard is that the new outfitter spent a bunch of time flying the new area with a helicopter looking the area over when they came across that ram. Apparently the pilot who was a Yukon resident hunter went back to that area they had seen it but was unable to locate that ram. The outfitter apparently was not too pleased when they found out that the guy they paid to fly them was in there to hunt it himself. Oh well:)

you are right on the money on this one, this ram was scouted from the air by the helicopter pilot and was no secret to a few people. For this outfit they don't have a ton of sheep or good sheep in their area so this was one heck of a ram for all involved.

[leadpillproductions]

I assume pretty much all the sheep guides in bc Yukon all do the scouting by air craft. I may be wrong but everytime I hunt the mountains planes flyin around the cliffs lookin for sheep

[sheephunterab]

The truth is, stone sheep can be pretty difficult to spot from the air. No idea on this ram but it's not as easy as one would think when there is no snow on the ground. Plus it's a damn expensive way to scout. I know many Yukon and BC outfitters that definitely don't scout with a plane...no doubt some do though.

[bridger]

The truth is, stone sheep can be pretty difficult to spot from the air. No idea on this ram but it's not as easy as one would think when there is no snow on the ground. Plus it's a damn expensive way to scout. I know many Yukon and BC outfitters that definitely don't scout with a plane...no doubt some do though.

on the flip side there are many bc outfitters that do scout stones with super cubs. Standard practice. Not as hard as you think once you know where too look.

[Alfonz]

True storey!

[sheephunterab]

on the flip side there are many bc outfitters that do scout stones with super cubs. Standard practice. Not as hard as you think once you know where too look.

Why did it take 18 days to get mine then....lol I have no doubt it's done but standard practice.....no. I've hunted with, guided for or been along on stone sheep hunts with 6 different outfitters in Yukon and BC and not once was a plane used for spotting sheep.

[digger dogger]

Only 18 days, must be nice. :-)
Im way past doubling 18 days.
I gots to get me a super cub!
:-) jk

[bridger]

Why did it take 18 days to get mine then....lol I have no doubt it's done but standard practice.....no. I've hunted with, guided for or been along on stone sheep hunts with 6 different outfitters in Yukon and BC and not once was a plane used for spotting sheep.

i have lived in bc for 45 years and hunted sheep every year and have hunted almost every guide area in ne bc. Believe me it goes on constantly maybe not on the day you were hunting, but it happens lots. Local sheep hunters have a name for it. "The Dawn Patrol"

[BCrams]

Believe me it goes on constantly maybe not on the day you were hunting, but it happens lots. Local sheep hunters have a name for it. "The Dawn Patrol"

We have seen it in our limited sheep hunting. We get a good chuckle as we're pretty sure the clients are unaware. If its not a dawn patrol, its the evening patrol and we have seen 'next day' horses in the vicinity of where previous days ridge line flights occurred. And sometimes, they're looking to see which way hunters went. Its pretty funny to dash under a tree to hide and then see the cub flying at tree level along the horse trail! We got busted one year when we were forced to build a fire to dry out but this year there was no need for fires!

[boxhitch]

Standard practice. Not as hard as you think once you know where too look.Of course they know where to look , they have been there before . So why would they waste the flight time and fuel to see that sheep are where they always are ? And a single pass down a ridgeline sure isn't going to give a good picture of what is living there , maybe different if the pilot circles a few times and has a spotter along . Is this what is done ? I doubt it.
Anyone who knows about mountain flying knows too what the risk would be to a plane .

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Watched it a couple times. First time looked as though the guide lost the ram they were after. Boss showed up and circled the area many times while the guide, client and horses just laid low.

Flight speeds are a lot different when you are flying from point A to B than they do when they are looking for sheep.

Supercubs also work well for chasing rams away from residents:grin:.

SSS

[rides bike to work]

Colorados shows aren't that great he does a lot of canned hunts. I imagine he probably kills over 20-30 animals a year so the magic is bound to fade as well he has probably hiked a thousand mountains and the old knees probably aren't what they used to be.I notice a lot of his shows are based on getting a youth involved or a vet so go on him. To much product talk and placement for sure though. Save it for the commercials like Shockley does would clean up the show a bit.

[BCHunterFSJ]

Supercubs also work well for chasing rams away from residents:grin:.

SSS

This has definitely happened to me on 2 different occasions!:icon_frow

[325 wsm]

If flying is a part of there program a knowledgable outfitter will fly the area up to a week before season. The day before it opens the guide and hunter will be at the base of the mountain waiting, ready to get an early start.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Why did it take 18 days to get mine then....lol I have no doubt it's done but standard practice.....no. I've hunted with, guided for or been along on stone sheep hunts with 6 different outfitters in Yukon and BC and not once was a plane used for spotting sheep.

Then you got it done the right way!

Safe to say you didn't hunt with Barry, Dale, Art or Miles? :grin:

Many 'don't' buy it's definitely not uncommon.
Forgot- Also witnessed it on a caribou hunt. He had to get pretty close to check out the bull we were watching.

[sheephunterab]

Like I say, I have no doubt it happens but I doubt as much as everyone believes. Perhaps I just ended up with the right outfitters but I guarantee there was no previous aerial spotting on any sheep hunt I've ever been involved in. Even my Dall hunt took 10 days....lol Buyer beware I guess.

[bighornbob]

Like I say, I have no doubt it happens but I doubt as much as everyone believes. Perhaps I just ended up with the right outfitters but I guarantee there was no previous aerial spotting on any sheep hunt I've ever been involved in. Even my Dall hunt took 10 days....lol Buyer beware I guess.

I talked to a guy that used to guide for a well known northern BC guide and he said all the guides basically knew where the sheep were but it still took over a 7-10 days to find their client a 37-38 inch ram. But he said every year some high paying client would come in, have breakfast at the main lodge with the outfitter, fly out with him and be back by dinner with a 40+ inch ram. I guess you did not pay enough for the hunt:)

Another friend guided in the north west territories and although he never saw the outfitter spotting sheep from the air. On most hunts him and a client would be dropped off at the mouth of a valley and told to hike up it. There were always rams up the valleys. He said it basically became unspoken, you just knew, the valley the outfitter drops you off at has rams in it.

BHB

[sheephunterab]

Hmmm...I've been on a few hundred-kilometer journeys before they took me to the pre scouted valley.

[sheep.elk.moose fanatic]

All I have to say is watch a few Lancaster videos of the sheep running from the helicopter ....

[bridger]

Hmmm...I've been on a few hundred-kilometer journeys before they took me to the pre scouted valley.

no disrepect intended, but there are a lot of serious experienced bc resident sheep hunters on this site that have first hand experience. Also many of us have shared a few beers with assistant guides after the season amazing what you can learn. Not doubting your experiences in bc and don't know with whom you were hunting, but bet it wasn't a with one of the bigger outfitters on the east slope.. Sheep aren't the only thing they scout. Resident hunters are high on their list of priorities as well. Just sayin

[325]

no disrepect intended, but there are a lot of serious experienced bc resident sheep hunters on this site that have first hand experience. Also many of us have shared a few beers with assistant guides after the season amazing what you can learn. Not doubting your experiences in bc and don't know with whom you were hunting, but bet it wasn't a with one of the bigger outfitters on the east slope.. Sheep aren't the only thing they scout. Resident hunters are high on their list of priorities as well. Just sayin


Yes, I've been "scouted" a couple of times myself.

[sheephunterab]

no disrepect intended, but there are a lot of serious experienced bc resident sheep hunters on this site that have first hand experience. Also many of us have shared a few beers with assistant guides after the season amazing what you can learn. Not doubting your experiences in bc and don't know with whom you were hunting, but bet it wasn't a with one of the bigger outfitters on the east slope.. Sheep aren't the only thing they scout. Resident hunters are high on their list of priorities as well. Just sayin

No disrespect taken and as I've said...I don't doubt it happens but the desire to paint all outfitted hunts with this brush by some is very misplaced. Lots of great old-school sheep hunts out there. Just sayin Truthfully, of all the sheep outfitters I've been with, only one had their own plane.

[BULLNUTTS]

http://huntingbc.ca/forum/images/shades_of_green/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Stone Sheep Stevehttp://huntingbc.ca/forum/images/shades_of_green/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=1590824#post1590824)Supercubs also work well for chasing rams away from residents:grin:.

SSS

Some truth there for sure as even manny years ago when I was a sprout climbing all over the backbones I had planes come chase sheep over and beyond.But that said- I know there are a whole lot of wealthy hunters too whom own their own planes too so might not always be the outfitter doing the driving there.And too -as I hate to paint all with one brush,and to be fair-I too know some VERY respectable outfitters and guides that are of the highest moral fiber and ethics and am proud to know them,to call them my friends.Still,its heartbreaking to have that done to you after endless dreamings and finally to the ballbreaking climbs into the alpines and then the pristiness is shattered by such deeds.Had the "hairs" on engines a couple times in anger-but thank heavens cooler heads prevailed-still remember those huge rams we were stocking going over those far off tops......never to be seen again but in my dreams forever. Good Huntin BULLNUTTS

[Ranger95]

Jealous of what?
His cute hair? Dude, have you ever seen him? That guy is no Sheep hunter. A Sheep like that, to most of us "hunters" on the forum, is the ram of a lifetime. You'd work hard to get it, enjoy every bit of the hunt, and enjoy the meat the animal provided. You'd have that mount on your wall and remember it always. To a guy like that, its just another show. He probably rode the horse right up to it, he doesn't look very sweaty at all.
Guys like that give "real" hunters a bad name. Hunting porn. Give me the real mackoy anytime.


oh my - you really do envy the guy!

He has an amazing show, a huge fan base, and from what I know and have personally witnessed (not hearsay BS) he gives a lot back to less fortunate people he hunts with!

never-mind, maybe one day eh?

[bridger]

oh my - you really do envy the guy!

He has an amazing show, a huge fan base, and from what I know and have personally witnessed (not hearsay BS) he gives a lot back to less fortunate people he hunts with!

never-mind, maybe one day eh?


Enjoy his show as well! For sure a lot of non resident sheep hunters work for their rams as hard as residents do
Have no issues with non res sheep hunters; sometimes just the company they keep..

[BCrams]

sheephunterab - I now remember your Stone's sheep article. It was a long time ago but stories like yours are among many I have read that kindled the fire for sheep hunting. I recall your ram was a 11th hr in a snow storm. Tough hunt indeed in a low density sheep area and I can see the effort required of such a hunt! That was awsome.

[M.Dean]

Is the propeller on a Super Cub bullet proof???

[tangozulu]

Why did it take 18 days to get mine then....lol I have no doubt it's done but standard practice.....no. I've hunted with, guided for or been along on stone sheep hunts with 6 different outfitters in Yukon and BC and not once was a plane used for spotting sheep.

Sorry to burst your bubble but is is absolutaly standard practice and of course you will be the last too know. Twenty years ago before everyone stopped talking on HF radios you could even hear the pilots talking to the guide. Just cause theirs less radio noise now doesn't change anything. Chances are if your on day 18 the outfitter is putting in double time to make it happen. Why do outfitters always have expensive cubs, even though many seem to kill themselves with it.

[sheephunterab]

Why do outfitters always have expensive cubs, even though many seem to kill themselves with it.

I've only ever hunted with one outfitter that had a cub. On my 18-day hunt we had zero contact with the outfitter. I suspect we covered over 100 miles. In fact on all the sheep hunts I've been on we had a sat phone on one and it came out to inform the pilot where to pick us up. Words like "always" typically show a lack of knowledge about the subject. I've guided several sheep hunts and never got any more information than we are headed to a particular range. Not all outfitter have cubs nor planes of any kind. Many do....many don't. There are very few absolutes in life. I do my homework carefully and pick my outfitters accordingly......always! No question pre scouted hunts are out there but sorry to burst your bubble but so are old fashioned work for a ram hunts.

[boxhitch]

Why do outfitters always have expensive cubsexpensive ? compared to what ?
in many cases it is used for the mundane daily grocery runs or crew movement . the smart car of the air

[srupp]

Hmmm sheephunterab..just finished watching yours and? Denise? Shoot a 10 year old Yukon dall sheep..well done
I have witnessed numerous shennanigans with outitters and planes...outfitter friend of mine up north flew 160 miles round trip because the clients wife demanded fresh lettuce...
Cheers
Steven

[sheephunterab]

Hmmm sheephunterab..just finished watching yours and? Denise? Shoot a 10 year old Yukon dall sheep..well done
I have witnessed numerous shennanigans with outitters and planes...outfitter friend of mine up north flew 160 miles round trip because the clients wife demanded fresh lettuce...
Cheers
Steven

Thanks. No doubt they happen. No plane on that Dall hunt other than the Beaver from town to main camp. No fresh lettuce in spike camp either...just Mountain House....lol