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BIGHUNTERFISH
02-25-2007, 08:24 PM
So what is the longest range you have shot and killed a big game animal?,and how far did the animal travel after the hit?:eek:

CHilko21
02-25-2007, 08:27 PM
So what is the longest range you have shot and killed a big game animal?,and how far did the animal travel after the hit?:eek:

I'm gonna bring up the last moose my brother shot. It was an immature bull, about 200 yards and running away from him on an angle, and he managed a free standing shot ( after trying to run towards it for a bit) and took the top off it's heart with his .308. It dropped like a sack of stones, beautiful shot.

elkster
02-25-2007, 08:28 PM
6 by 6 rosie elk near Woss lake with a 3oo mag tikka 345 yds. dropped on the spot. Up hill through the base of the neck. it was standing facing us, only shot unless you wanted to do a reverse texas heart shot.

Creeping Death
02-25-2007, 08:31 PM
I am probably wrong but I thought it was bow only for elk on the island.

elkster
02-25-2007, 08:34 PM
I am probably wrong but I thought it was bow only for elk on the island.
You are definately wrong. There are some areas that are bow only, but not Woss Lake!!!!!:mad:

lip_ripper00
02-25-2007, 08:35 PM
I am probably wrong but I thought it was bow only for elk on the island.

your wrong

Creeping Death
02-25-2007, 08:36 PM
sweet for once im glad im wrong

lip_ripper00
02-25-2007, 08:42 PM
I'm sure their will some debate on this thread but here goes. I should not have taken the shot and would do it again, 350 yds and he went less than 30 ft.

Creeping Death
02-25-2007, 08:51 PM
Well heres mine. There was a friend 300win mag, a duck and a bet involved. I was led to beleive that the duck was 500yrds, but still dont beleive that crap, but was more like 400yrds. I was only allowed one shot....well i dont need to tell the whole story but I will tell you that the MAG is still one of my favorite guns to hunt with! I still rub it in these days, even though its been about 8yrs.

Creeping Death
02-25-2007, 08:52 PM
*friends* sorrry

Iron-Head
02-25-2007, 08:56 PM
Are you saying you shot a poor lil duck with your big magnum:eek:

Creeping Death
02-25-2007, 08:58 PM
Yes i did...It made great hamburger. Was probably the only thing i've ever shot that i didnt eat, but i bet something else ate it so i never went to waste.

Tuffcity
02-25-2007, 09:05 PM
that's a heck of a long shot with a shotgun. hint, hint (seeing as how shooting ducks with a rifle is illegal... :))

Creeping Death
02-25-2007, 09:06 PM
I know....one bad thing in life yrs ago aint too bad

hutch
02-25-2007, 09:09 PM
between 300 and 350 for a bear and he fell right over. might have been border line for me but had 10 minutes to be sure before pulling the trigger

mark
02-25-2007, 09:19 PM
Hmm.. I guess ill break new ground here, 460 yards on a mature moose a few years ago! (.300 mag.) I watched him for about 10 minutes, thought it was way to far, then remembered i had my rangefinder with me. After it told me 460 about 10 times, and since i was in a camp with 5 guys and had no meat after 11 days of hunting, i figured i better do my best! missed first shot, dumped him on the second! He was waaay out in a swamp, and needed another shot, all i could see was his head, took 4 more shots to get another in him! And 4 quads tied together to get him out!
Distance was also GPS'ed

chevy
02-25-2007, 09:34 PM
I shot a mulie buck in 2005 with a .300 win mag at roughly 550 yards and it dropped in it's tracks it was a perfect shot!!!!

wsm
02-25-2007, 09:44 PM
shot a buck at 390 yards it was checked with a gps. gps at the time was accurate to 12 feet. ran 1700 yards , needed to shoot him again. shot him at 9am had him dealt with by noon , back to quads by 3pm, at camp by 6pm. hope i never go through that again. long drag

RiverOtter
02-25-2007, 09:55 PM
7'1" Black bear in 2001 at a lasered 361 yards. Only shot I had, as I was on the opposite side of a drainage. The bear was following an old road, so I ranged a stump at a spot where the road disappeared from my view and then waited for the bear to arrive. The bear stopped at the stump, almost on cue and I drilled it with my .270 and a 140 gr Hornady IL. 1 shot and the bear made a 40 yard dash into cover. Took me an hour to drive around to where I shot him and another 2 hours waiting for help to drag him 40 yards out to the road. He had nearly 3 inches of fat on him and it was only the end of May. Makes the 6'1" bear in my avatar look like a cub, but I was still using 35mm technology back then and I don't have any pics scanned.

RO

mntman
02-25-2007, 10:03 PM
immy moose at 545 yrds dropped in his tracks

Guido02
02-25-2007, 10:03 PM
Friend shot a 4 point whitetail at 411 yd ( used rangefinder) with a 25 Gibbs. Hit behind shoulder and he went stright up with all fours legs . He hit the ground and jumped up heading for bush about 60 yds away. He nose dived at the 45 yd mark but manged to crawl into willows. He was not going anywhere.

Later that week he shot a mice mulie at dusk off shooting sticks at 425yds with 7mm mag ( 154 gr bullets). Missed on first shot, second shot was in boiler room and third was high on shoulder and down he went.

Range finders , good rests and sighted in rifles can do amazing things.

What a year !!

Rubicon500
02-25-2007, 10:04 PM
hahah good thing I got a close pin because I smell alot of BS coming out of this Thread!! A Buck at 140 yards brodside, all of a sudden becomes 540 yards and you shot him in the head while it was in a full sprint!LOL

Browningmirage
02-25-2007, 10:07 PM
Mine was an island blacktail, 150ish yards. It wasnt an extremely long shot, but it was walking towards me, so a pretty small target. First deer, so lots of wobbly crosshairs too.

.308win
02-25-2007, 10:19 PM
Longest shot...probably the last moose i shot back East, ~150yrds, one shot dropped him in his tracks with a .308 180grn. Hunting in the interiour can't say that i've seen to many animals out past 200yrds that you could actually see enough(brush and trees) of the animal to make a comfortable shot!!

Blktail
02-25-2007, 10:20 PM
I shot a mature moose at about 400 yards 3 years ago. I turned to see him trotting for the back door of the cutblock I was in. As I was cursing my bad luck he stopped broadside for a look at me. I took 2 quick shots at his boiler (aiming just above his spine) with my 30.06 and he just stood there without any reaction. I cursed again thinking my scope was out or I had the range guessed wrong. I kneeled down and took two more shots at his head. The second shot hit him in the neck where it attaches to his skull and he dropped. Turns out the first and second shots were 6" apart through the lungs just above the heart. At 40" he is my best moose, but I'd trade him for a 100" Island blacktail any day.:lol:

I once shot a blacktail with a slug from a goose gun at 150+ yards. I won't do that again now that I am all growed up.

model88
02-25-2007, 10:21 PM
Antelope hunt in Wyoming, paced off at 297 paces, uphill. He never went 20 yards, hit him in the boiler room with my .270 shootin Barnes X.

bochunk2000
02-25-2007, 10:24 PM
My biggest black bear 185 yrds up hill..30-06 165 partition, range finder, double lungs he didn't go far.
Steve

moosecaller
02-25-2007, 10:35 PM
Many years ago a mule deer at 660 yards with a .270 win. M77 one shot through the head didn't move an inch. I would not have believed it myself but my cousin (moosehunter) knew exactly how far it was to the back of his 1/4 section and varified the shot. I don't think I could reproduce it ever again.

BlacktailStalker
02-25-2007, 10:56 PM
Dropped my bull elk this year @ 303 yards I believe it was. The 2 shots were 3/4" apart. I felt extremely comfortable with that shot and wouldn't have a problem using the 450 yard reticle on my B&C reticle Leupy, CONDITIONS PERMITTING.
I had a solid rest in a prone position on that elk and had all the time in the world as I counted those points 50 times before I squeezed on him.
Longest free hand shot was 147 yards on my spring bear in '06, bang flop. Right after a 200 yard hustle to cut him off too.

Dad and son
02-25-2007, 10:58 PM
My brother shot a moose at over 600 yards at the top of a cut block. He used a rest and shoots a 338 Lapua. He had no GPS with him, he aimed about 3 feet above its back, and hit it on his second shot. It took him around 20 - 25 minutes to walk to where the animal was shot as it dropped in its tracks. The next year I saw the location. I feel that is way too far to shoot but he is a good shot and was getting eager. I had shot my moose on opening day and he was now hunting alone as I had to head home and it was now day 4 or 5.

Browningmirage
02-25-2007, 11:07 PM
20-25 minutes can mean 40 yards in some places on the island.

Caveman
02-25-2007, 11:13 PM
I took a mature moose in Atlin in 2001 across a dry swamp from about 475yds. Dropped him on the first shot from a lying down position. Although he did get up he didn't go more than a few yards before he went back down. For all the 30.06 fans it was a 180gr Federal Premium. I aimed roughly 1ft above his shoulder and I'll be honest I was surprised I hit him on the first shot, not the most comfortable shot or would I make a habit of it. At the time it was about the only shot I had because it would have taken an hour to walk the edge of the slough to avoid crawling across the middle. I've taken a few other animals in the 250-350yd range but nothing like this one.

Caveman
02-25-2007, 11:18 PM
In 1989 I saw my dad take a coyote with his vintage Husky 270 with no optics, through an elevated peep sight. The yardage I can't be sure of, but I counted 631 strides to get there. I watched the shot through my binos and from the shot to impact felt like two seconds, I couldn't believe what I had just seen.

Brambles
02-25-2007, 11:54 PM
Whitetail this year at 325 yards with a 375 H&H mag, 260 gr hornady interlock. Went about 30-40 yards.

pmj
02-26-2007, 12:14 AM
2006. Parker Hale 30-06, 180 grain Federal Nosler Accubond. 110 yards:). Spike fork buck :lol: . Back end to me with a hair quater to the right. Head turned left looking back. I am sitting sideways with elbows on my knees. Bullet entry left side of neck exit right side. All I saw in the Bushnell was 4 hoofs upside down in the air. Ohh... sorry:oops: you said BIG game.

mikek blacktail
02-26-2007, 03:08 AM
408 yards on a moose my uncle had shot low in the sternem, on a broadside shot I managed to hit it three times well it was running, one neck one spine one in the guts .All of whichs were lucky shots but I knew he had hit it already,so I might as well try.normally all my shots are pretty close but I thought this would fit the thread.

oh yah the spine shot dropped him and we measured it with a lecia rangefinder the next day.

GoatGuy
02-26-2007, 03:15 AM
Sask WT somebody had shot in the back leg sometime earlier that week - leg was windmilling as he tried to trot away with a bunch of muley does. Figured he was coyote bait. Stopped broadside at 442 yards. Found the only bush in the prairies suitable as a rest.

14 hour drive for a 130" rat - expensive meat!:lol:

hunter1947
02-26-2007, 06:02 AM
500 yards was my longest shot ,this shot was a once and only shot i ever took at that range and will be the last time i will shoot that far ,to me it's not fair to the animal to shoot out that far ,the chances for a wound are there for sure. I did this years back when i was younger ,got more smarts now that i have aged in my hunting years ,my longest shots now are around 300 plus yards. hunter 1947.

Bigbuckadams
02-26-2007, 06:26 AM
Have never had the need to make really long shots, 200 yards on a Mulie 3-4 years ago, 300 yards on a coyote about 12 years ago. Both dropped in their tracks....Mulie slid down the hill a bit though :lol: .

mcrae
02-26-2007, 08:52 AM
Mine was 285 yards on a black bear this past spring with a 338/08. I don't usually have to worry about super long shots in most of the spots I hunt.

Mattimoose
02-26-2007, 09:03 AM
I watched my partner blow the hind-leg off a big Whitetail doe running away from him at about 150 yards. The doe kept falling down and trying to get back-up and was on the beach of the island we were hunting.
I judged the distance to be about 450 yards and the first shot from a kneeling position struck the water below the doe's belly. I had placed the crosshairs level with her back. This is when I realized the doe was pretty big and I took the second shot aiming about 2 feet higher and rolled her-over handily with a 250 grain .338 bullet. It took 610 paces to get to her, and surprisingly, the bullet had been caught by the skin on the far side. I had never shot an animal with the .338 winchester magnum where I was able to recover the bullet.

bigwhiteys
02-26-2007, 09:06 AM
Maybe 200 yards tops on one of my whitetails... I am not a fan of ultra-long shots on big game. I don't have anything to prove and will always try and close the distance as close as I possibly can.

Happy Hunting!
Carl

Gateholio
02-26-2007, 09:13 AM
Pretty far...

:lol:

3kills
02-26-2007, 09:18 AM
bout 250 yards on my first deer....was shaking like crazy and i missed the first shot second shot i spinned it....my first moose was also bout 250 yards down hill double lung shot fell in his tracks....both shots with my old trusty .303...

rocksteady
02-26-2007, 09:25 AM
Took a mulie doe (back in the early 90's when they let them out) that I scaled on a map to be about 470 yards. (range finders were not invented yet)

Last year took a 4 point mulie at 440 yards. (ranged him about 10 times)

BOth were taken with 30-06 180 grain handloads, using the Harris Bipod and plenty of time to evaluate and decide on distance.

Neither went more than 10 yards..

youngfellla
02-26-2007, 09:28 AM
Took an elk @ 443 yards with my 338/378 shooting 225 Acubonds @ 3300 fps (at that range it has more energy than a 30-06 does at the muzzle) Looked like he got hit by a semi. Taken a few deer out near 400 yards with my 7 Mag and 300 RUM.

This thread's got me wondering, how many can actually judge distance? Many hunters quickly turn anything past 200 yds into 5 or 600 yard shots, then it's usually offhand with a 20mph wind :lol:

My neighbor shoots coyotes off his bait pile which he swears is 375 yards away, when it's actually 180. I showed him with the rangefinder but he didn't believe it. And he wonders why he misses every one that comes in:rolleyes:

luckynuts
02-26-2007, 09:30 AM
:redface: jeesh a bunch of snipers here. Can't say I take long shots all the moose have been under 200yds and more like 60-80 yds all the island deer have been 30yds (bow kill) and one mule about 100yds. I did shoot one island bear after buddy took four pokes at it and missed I managed to drop it on a dead run at approx 250-260yds though I hit him in the melon totally fluked out. I did lose a bear (not my proudest moment for sure) and it was my longest shot 300+yds think I took him a little high searched for 3 days with a dog so i am fairly confident that it was only a flesh wound. Was a beautiful cinnimon too. i like to try and close the gap makes it more of a challenge though maybe i'm compensating for my shooting skills:roll::lol:

W.

Gateholio
02-26-2007, 09:37 AM
This thread's got me wondering, how many can actually judge distance? Many hunters quickly turn anything past 200 yds into 5 or 600 yard shots, then it's usually offhand with a 20mph wind :lol:


I've found that most hunters can easily judge to abotu 150-200 yards, then it's absolutly astounding how poor the estimates become. A rangefinder is a real eye opener.

Using your scope to estimate range works well too, if you have practiced this at the range prior to hunting.8-)

BIGHUNTERFISH
02-26-2007, 09:41 AM
I was wondering how many replies I would have got if I asked the question ,how many big game animals have you missed taking a 300 yard or longer shot?:lol:

bigwhiteys
02-26-2007, 09:43 AM
I've found that most hunters can easily judge to abotu 150-200 yards

After playing Rugby for over a decade I got pretty good at judging distances out to 100 yards... I just imagine the field in front of me and with all the lines.. 10, 22, 50, and 100. Outside that it's pretty much a rough guess...

Happy Hunting!
Carl

luckynuts
02-26-2007, 09:55 AM
Last fall buddy brought up his new ballistic rangefinder and we did the estimating thing, actually we were all pretty close out to 550 yds in flat clearcuts but as soon as we started estimating steep inclines and declines we were a little shocked at how far we were over estimating as buddy had the new leupold rangefinder that measures the true ballistic range. Sure is good practise to estimate and then see how close or how far out you are.

W.

Gateholio
02-26-2007, 10:22 AM
I was wondering how many replies I would have got if I asked the question ,how many big game animals have you missed taking a 300 yard or longer shot?:lol:

One....and it sucked.:sad:

dave_fras
02-26-2007, 10:26 AM
hammerd the biggest bear of my life at about 430 yards ... then again it was with my uncles 338 lapua.... 250gr bullets....it was across a little valley and he was walking right down a old logging road..... i broke his spine.. he didnt even budge

Mr. Dean
02-26-2007, 10:34 AM
I've found that most hunters can easily judge to abotu 150-200 yards, then it's absolutly astounding how poor the estimates become. A rangefinder is a real eye opener.

Using your scope to estimate range works well too, if you have practiced this at the range prior to hunting.8-)

I know my ranging skills SUCK after 200.
I find it easier if I try to 'break it down' into thirds, example; 300yrds = three 100yd 'breaks'.

Using this method, I'm good for guesstimating out to ~400yrds, IF the playing field is fairly smooth. Once I start look'n up mountain/hill sides, I find it REAL tough to get a good estimation. 300 starts look'n like 200...But I now know this and factor for it. Also, at least a couple times a year, I practice shooting 100 rounds @ targets set out @ 400yrds.

Answer to thread.....312yrds (2006) up a 35 degree slope - Bang... Flop!



I was wondering how many replies I would have got if I asked the question ,how many big game animals have you missed taking a 300 yard or longer shot?

Big 0.
It's not that tough of a distance, as long as you can practise up for it AND have an almost intimit relationship with your rifle and the round that you are shooting.

Key word here is practise. :smile:

willy442
02-26-2007, 10:43 AM
From the stand point of a hunter this thread is sickining! Belive it or not when in the hunting business our clients were usually not permitted to shoot over 250 yards. If they drew blood on an animal, they cut thier tag and paid thier kill fee's. We did everything possible to locate and retrieve the animal, including on one occassion, hire a helicopter. The animals deserve more respect, than to have (killers) not hunters banging away at them. Is it not part of the HUNT to out smart the animal by getting close and killing him with one shot? Maybe we should take away guns and hunt with bows.

wetcoaster
02-26-2007, 10:46 AM
mule deer at 172 yards on the range finder. The majority of my shots have been between 70 and 140 yards. I practice to 300 yards from typical field positions and my results tell me I should be shooting at game well within that distance without a bench.

I am just plain amazed at the distances reported that guys are taking game succesfully from the shooting positions reported. 400-600 yards running, offhand etc etc! Congrats boys that kind of shooting ability is just plain incredible. I would like to see a follow up to this thread and see these same guys post up their 300 - 600 yard shooting results at the range with their big game rifle from field positions like those reported. I would love to see what kind of consistant accuracy is required to have this kind of confidence so I know what to aspire to. :wink: :biggrin:

rocksteady
02-26-2007, 10:49 AM
A lot has to do with proven competence with the firearm in hand.

My 30-06 is sighted dead on for the yardages I shoot. I study ballistics tables, and do practice at long ranges, to confirm. I would rather take a long range broadside shot than some of the medium range (200 yard) running shots. (Yes I have taken a few runners that I regret).

Each person out there should know their limits and hunt accordingly..Not only with their shooting, but their weapon of choice too. This not only goes for rifles, but archery and shotgun (ducks) as well...

Sitkaspruce
02-26-2007, 10:53 AM
428 yards measured on a Caribou, the rest have been inside 250, the closest, a moose at 6.

bigwhiteys
02-26-2007, 10:55 AM
I am just plain amazed at the distances reported that guys are taking game succesfully from the shooting positions reported. 400-600 yards running, offhand etc etc! Congrats boys that kind of shooting ability is just plain incredible. I would like to see a follow up to this thread and see these same guys post up their 300 - 600 yard shooting results at the range with their big game rifle from field positions like those reported. I would love to see what kind of consistant accuracy is required to have this kind of confidence so I know what to aspire to. :wink: :biggrin:

They are probably the same people that will tell you "if you've never wounded and lost an animal you haven't hunted long enough" :)

The vitals on a deer at 300-400 yards in my 4x leupy is a pretty small target... That same deer at 100 yards nearly fills my scope.

Happy Hunting!
Carl

BIGHUNTERFISH
02-26-2007, 11:06 AM
I never shoot more than 300 yards,if I cant stalk to within a comfortable shooting distance I wont pull the trigger.I was hunting in the Pink Mountain area a few years ago when I spotted a real nice bull moose in a draw across a creek ,my partner and I estimated the distance to be about 450 yards ,the wind was good and I decided to walk down the drainage to get a closer shot,as I was walking down I hear shots going off one after another at least 8 in total .I walk up the side of the ridge close to where the moose was standing and see the big bull trying to walk acrooss the slide ,I lean my rifle on an old stump and let a bullet fly in the shoulder of the moose and he goes down instantly.I hike up to the bull and find a moose that has a bullet in the gut the back of his ass and above the front leg,as well as the shoulder.I wait and about 25 minutes later these two guys come hiking up ,all excited saying thats our moose thats our moose and that they were shooting a very long distance and that they had made some great shots,I let them know that I finished the bull off and they said right on.They then suggested that If I help them pack the moose out they would give me alot of meat as long as they could keep the rack.I politely declined and headed back to my truck.The next morning I shot a smaller bull about 100 yards from my truck.

Stone Sheep Steve
02-26-2007, 11:06 AM
The vitals on a deer at 300-400 yards in my 4x leupy is a pretty small target... That same deer at 100 yards nearly fills my scope.

Happy Hunting!
Carl

That's one of the advantages of a variable scope.


SSS

Elkhound
02-26-2007, 11:12 AM
A Blacktail 2 seasons ago at 251yrds. Story was posted here as well

bigwhiteys
02-26-2007, 11:14 AM
That's one of the advantages of a variable scope.

I have a 3x9 variable scope on my mountain rifle and it's usually always between 4 and 6 power anyways. The 4x leupy is perfect for the shots I make on deer/bear and with the fixed power I am not encouraged to try for the long bombs.

Carl

jjensen20
02-26-2007, 11:22 AM
I shot a whitetail in alberta a couple of years ago 358 yds with my .270 dropped it on the spot. I had a very good rest and alot of time though if I hadnt of I probably wouldnt have taken the shot

NEEHAMA
02-26-2007, 11:26 AM
Quail 850 yards.

oscar makonka
02-26-2007, 12:49 PM
We have a little rifle rodeo every summer here and one of the targets is a life size antelope we set out at 360 yds. Al contestants know the distance and it is shot from the prone position. Last year we had 44 guys try it. It was hit 8 times, only 3 shots went in the vitals. We have a running deer target at 135 yds, it's shot offhand standing, it was hit 11 times, 4 into the vitals. Lifesize elk pops up at 210 yds, hit 23 times, 9 vital hits, medium size pop up bear at 110 yds, hit 26 times, 11 into the vitals. These are average hunters who only go to the range 6 or 7 times a year and only shoot a couple hundred rounds or so a year. Most of those guys have bragged about the 400 yd + shots they've made, they rarely tell how many bad shots and misses they made before they actually hit and killed one.

HighCountry
02-26-2007, 01:10 PM
2005 moose hunt in Chetwynd I shot a good size bull moose range at 469 yards used browning bar 30-06 with 165gr ballistic tip one shot hit the shoulder drop like a rock.That's my longest shot.

MichelD
02-26-2007, 01:35 PM
Maybe 120 yards successfully.

I wounded one at 299 yards last year and I know it was at 299 because I told my buddy I wouldn't shoot over 300 so he watched it on the rangefinder and told me when the deer came into range.

If he wasn't there to back me up we might have lost it.

A big deer looks pretty small to me in a 4X scope at 300. I really prefer to be way closer.

brotherjack
02-26-2007, 02:19 PM
So what is the longest range you have shot and killed a big game animal?,and how far did the animal travel after the hit?:eek:

"Not very" to both questions. ;)

Seriously, about 45-ish yards was my longest shot, and the critter in question didn't even get out of sight.

wetcoaster
02-26-2007, 02:24 PM
We have a little rifle rodeo every summer here and one of the targets is a life size antelope we set out at 360 yds. Al contestants know the distance and it is shot from the prone position. Last year we had 44 guys try it. It was hit 8 times, only 3 shots went in the vitals. We have a running deer target at 135 yds, it's shot offhand standing, it was hit 11 times, 4 into the vitals. Lifesize elk pops up at 210 yds, hit 23 times, 9 vital hits, medium size pop up bear at 110 yds, hit 26 times, 11 into the vitals. These are average hunters who only go to the range 6 or 7 times a year and only shoot a couple hundred rounds or so a year. Most of those guys have bragged about the 400 yd + shots they've made, they rarely tell how many bad shots and misses they made before they actually hit and killed one.

Thanks for the post. How many shots does each person get at each target? Your results are pretty much exactly what I would expect. Reality is far from popular perception through the internet and elsewhere.

elkguide
02-26-2007, 02:40 PM
The elk in my avatar was shot at at 514 yards ( shooting my 338 with federal 250 nosler partitions in a high energy round, 2oo yard zero leaves me 54 inches down at 500, hold double the body hieght and be really steady, also the harris bipod i use really helped.), so long story short, hit him 2 out of 4 times, and did he run,after the second bullet hit him....he ran over 350 yards and piled running up a hill and rolled back down 80 or so yards to get where the picture is ( he was out in a powerline when I shot at him.) shot a coyote yesterday with my 06 at 364 yards hit him right behind the shoulder.

Kechika
02-26-2007, 02:55 PM
I prefer to hunt...rather than shoot.All with in 150 yards

Elkhound
02-26-2007, 03:05 PM
I prefer to hunt...rather than shoot.All with in 150 yards

:roll: says the guy who shot his bear last year at 400yrds

Kechika
02-26-2007, 03:06 PM
:roll: says the guy who shot his bear last year at 400yrds

LOL more like 40

Elkhound
02-26-2007, 03:08 PM
LOL more like 40

Damn.....really? I am useless without my rangefinder:lol:

Rainwater
02-26-2007, 03:23 PM
I shot a coyote with my 64 lb recurve at 85 yards and will not use skill as a reason for getting it. It travelled about 45 yards, you could of scraped my friends eyes off with a stick. I still miss deer at under 10 yards.

luckynuts
02-26-2007, 03:29 PM
2005 moose hunt in Chetwynd I shot a good size bull moose range at 469 yards used browning bar 30-06 with 165gr ballistic tip one shot hit the shoulder drop like a rock.That's my longest shot.

Not to insult but that's a long shot using 165gr bullets for that range on a moose, even scarier that they were Ballistic tips.. Glad you got your Moose. Very curious did it break the shoulder, did you catch him in the hump???? I wouldn't hesitate to use a 165gr bullet on a moose just to far for me and wrong bullet.

W.

Frango
02-26-2007, 04:15 PM
I bagged a pronghorn just south of Brooks Alta at around 400 yards.I would never try for such a long shot but in this case I had been hunting for a few days and never got close.He jumped about 10 feet and dropped.I was using an M77 7mm mag 150 gr.I was on the ground and aimed about 6 inches high of the kill zone.The elk and moose I have bagged have all been under 100 yards so it was a long one for me.I now shoot a Browning Abolt 280 and I think I could do just as well with it.

Leaseman
02-26-2007, 04:40 PM
I feel very comfortable with my 20 year old Tikka 30-06 out to 400 yards, I have done lots of long range shooting in my younger years and know what my gun and I can do WITH A GOOD REST....longest shot, 549 yards to a moose...2 shots, 1 shoulder, one heart...dropped on the spot....hardest long shot....touching 500 yards on a Island blacktail....

With a bit of knowledge, long range shooting isn't too tough.....what I hate seeing is the guys who get soooo excited that they let lead fly at 50 yards and miss, but keep shooting until they are empty.....

One thing that sticks with me is something my great uncle said....he was a trapper up till he died and when he was teaching me to shoot animals he would ask where was I aiming....I would say the lungs or heart etc... he would tell me that was wrong...he would say....

"If you are shooting for the heart, take aim at one of the hairs covering the heart, then shoot"

I have used this lesson to this day when teaching shooting and boy does it work, think about it....you are actually picking the hair you are to hit....


Mike

SHAKER
02-26-2007, 05:10 PM
Smacked a Whitetail at 401 a couple of years ago (Laser Range finder). I had to read threw this and see if anyone else had any coments but here it goes.... If you know the range and know exactly what you firearm is capable of at that range then shooting long distance is O.K. But if you never practice at anything over 100 yards dink'n around at your local range a couple days a year then In my opinion it is unethical to take a shot much farther than that. For the record my .300 win mag is sighted in 3 inches high at 100 yards so she's basicly dead nuts at 300 and at 400 you just hold on the very top of the back (on a Deer). I feel comfortable doing shots out to 400 yards and do shoot farther but not on game, just too many variables in between. I think we owe it to an animal to know we can kill it cleanly. Just my 2 cents on it.

tuchodi
02-26-2007, 05:22 PM
The Elk I have in my Avatar was shot at aprox 25 yds. The longest animal I have shot was at aprox 110 yds. That was in the early 70's when rangefiners were the steps from your shot to the animal. I can not say if I am comfortable shotting longer shots as I have never had to. Maybe thats why I prefer to shoot much closer I know I can hit them.

BIGHUNTERFISH
02-26-2007, 05:29 PM
I dont think you can compare shooting at the range to shooting in a hunting scenario,at the range you have a straight flat shooting lane with an excellent rest and as much time as you need to pull the trigger,hunting you have diffrent trajectories,inclines,obstructed views ,adrenaline rushes,and more than not a less than perfect rest.It would almost be like comparing golfing shoots to hitting a ball at the driving range.:roll:

Elkhound
02-26-2007, 05:31 PM
.I would say the lungs or heart etc... he would tell me that was wrong...he would say....

"If you are shooting for the heart, take aim at one of the hairs covering the heart, then shoot"

I have used this lesson to this day when teaching shooting and boy does it work, think about it....you are actually picking the hair you are to hit....


Mike

Mike. I was taught this as well. Very good advice. The best I ever received as far as shootig location goes

pork n beans
02-26-2007, 05:36 PM
35 yards on a whitetail doe is the longest. A good thread would be what is the shortest shot. Mine is about 15 feet on a blacktail buck on the mainland.

HighCountry
02-26-2007, 08:15 PM
Not to insult but that's a long shot using 165gr bullets for that range on a moose, even scarier that they were Ballistic tips.. Glad you got your Moose. Very curious did it break the shoulder, did you catch him in the hump???? I wouldn't hesitate to use a 165gr bullet on a moose just to far for me and wrong bullet.

W. 2006 season I use my 7mmwsm with 140gr ballistic tip for my leh moose only walk about 10 step.That was in Reg 5 picture in my gallery.

gameslayer
02-26-2007, 09:07 PM
Like Carl I trained my eyes using the rugby field look ( Played & lined many fields). I like to pick out stuff near camp and ask the guys to guess how far, I find at 200 meters guys are at least 50 meters out (I use my GPS). I did a standing 225 meter on GPS on a mule I was sliding down a shale slope and spoted a 4 point headed for the tree line. Hit him in the brisket on the first shot and missed 3 more times ( adrenilen Heavy breathing ) & got lucky on the first, he just stood there and then layed down 15 meters away. I closed the distance and finished him with a head shot at 30 meteres. Only 245 M for me Prone. Very seldom have I seen guys be able to back up what the say they can do. That shooting Rodeo sounds fun.

wsm
02-26-2007, 10:12 PM
anything over 100 yards i find a rest. if one is not availiable NO SHOT have taken a couple deer between 2&300 yards successfuly. if you read my post from this past season it was just shy of 400 and not a good shot rifle shot a rainbow took me an entire day to recover the deer. and that was with a rest. that rifle shoots three quaters of an inch at 100 yrds. and i do spen a lot of time shooting.

Mr. Dean
02-27-2007, 02:18 AM
I dont think you can compare shooting at the range to shooting in a hunting scenario,at the range you have a straight flat shooting lane with an excellent rest and as much time as you need to pull the trigger,hunting you have diffrent trajectories,inclines,obstructed views ,adrenaline rushes,and more than not a less than perfect rest.It would almost be like comparing golfing shoots to hitting a ball at the driving range.:roll:

Not necessarily.
Most of the obstacles that are outlined are seeded from anxiety.

Building confidence in the shot at hand squashes most of these barriers. Through practice, a shooter learns what he/she can and can't do. Also, as long as the animal isn't spooked, you can have all the time in the world to visualize the shot and get prep'd for it. If it turns out that you did take to long, and the critter moves off; doesn't mean the hunts over. It means that you now have options you're forced to deal with. Should I leave... Should I stalk...?

I have never let one off on a running animal. Doubt I ever will (notice that I didn't say never...). I could see me backing up another shooter if I was forced to do so but (in general) it’s not my kind of hunting. Mainly for the fact, that I have no way to practice this type of scenario. All my skills on moving targets are limited to busting clay pigeons w/ a 12 or 20ga. I think that center fires would be much different.

I also know that I'm not ready to try and put the hurt on anything past 350. I need more practise first. :frown: :oops:

A golfer does improve his game from time spent on the driving range. It's the reason why it's there.

I goin to the range AGAIN, this Thursday. Any one interested?

cwocarsten
02-27-2007, 02:33 AM
Using my .338 I wacked a bull elk at 525yds verified with my range finder and it moved 3ft straight down to the ground.

partsman
02-27-2007, 09:55 AM
Goat 300 yards, up on Royal Peak.

willyqbc
02-27-2007, 10:54 AM
longest with a rifle was a muley at 357yds with a 308 Norma mag ....he went 0 feet

longest with a bow was 57 yards on a muley...the shot was farther than he went.

Chris

Gateholio
02-27-2007, 11:15 AM
Quail 850 yards.

Headshot?

I like CNS hits on quail.

NEEHAMA
02-27-2007, 12:55 PM
it ran a few hundred yards before it fell. i had to track the tiny blood trail.

Gateholio
02-27-2007, 12:59 PM
it ran a few hundred yards before it fell. i had to track the tiny blood trail.

At least you tracked it down and recovered it. Well done, and good shooitng.

Mark_S
02-27-2007, 01:01 PM
I shot a bear at something like 162 yards a few years ago. Longest shot I have taken.


How many have I missed at over 300 yards? None. I still manage to miss at closer than that.


I'm very comfortable shooting out to 300 meters at the range....from the bench....with no rain and little wind....on flat ground. In the field 300 meters sure looks like a LONG way to be shooting uphill when you are using a log for a rest and it is snowing and windy. Could I make the shot? Probably....I'd rather not try if it is at all possible that I can get closer.

kishman
02-27-2007, 01:19 PM
Mine is all of 25-30 yards:lol: :lol: , I shot my first Deer last fall8-) .

elkguide
02-27-2007, 01:19 PM
I know a fella that shot a moose across a lake that we ranged at 490 yards ( with a 338) , it took 3 shots to dump it. He also tried to tell me that he shot an elk at around 800yards ( i think his eyes are brown), he shoots competition at 1000yards so I wonder sometimes if maybe, just maybe he is not BS ing? ant ad if that doesn't make you shake your head this will......The biggest horseshoe I've ever witnessed was guy we were guiding on a stone sheep hunt....found a good dark ram and stalked to 250 yards.....boom...he missed....ram starts running.....boom....missed again.....ram still running....boom missed again....ram still bookin it out of the basin.....one last.......boom down goes the ram. Ranged after at 620 yards....when we get to the ram he only was hit once.....right through the curl in his horn and just under the Eye. turns out his scope rings were loose....Luckiest guy I ever met.

The Hermit
02-27-2007, 02:10 PM
I don't like taking long shots on game. I've let some walk away at as close as 150 yards because I wasn't standing on level ground or there were tigs in the way and I couldn't get closer etc.

This year I knocked down my 4x5 whitetail at around 200 (+-20) yards free standing. It wasn't a good shot and had to run up to finish the job... I hate that and have decided no more free standing shots over 150 yards for me.

I would take a shot with a good rest out to 300 yards on an elk or moose but not on a deer. (weatherby 300)

I am taking up archery hunting because the part I like best about hunting is the stock. I don't actually like the killing part. To me it is a humbling part of experience. Dealing with the animal afterward is no problem its just those few minutes immediately after the deed. It is the part that brings reminds me of my place in an incredible universe, and one of the reasons I think of big game hunting as a spiritual experience.

Shooting geese if fun though! LOL goofy thinking I know... :-)

curt
02-27-2007, 02:24 PM
GPS reading 522 yards up hill in clear cut "Bull moose by the way" likey off a few yards gps usually accurate to within 20yrds 2shots 338 180 grain first one missed second one knocked him over hard managed to get back to his feet then fell back over.

steel_ram
02-27-2007, 03:19 PM
Shot a moose at 400 meters off hand. No rest, waste deep in swamp grass, it was the only shot I had. I brought the rifle up, for a change I was calm and broke the shot high on shoulder. Got him in the heart.

BTW, I practise off hand a lot.

road warrior
02-27-2007, 04:27 PM
690 yards black bear went 2 feet straight down

Statler
02-27-2007, 06:56 PM
Mine was gopher hunting on the pairies. Had my K77 22. LR. Started to sneak up on a town but could only get to within 2 klics before the sentry saw me. Decided that I wasn't going to get any closer than that so I decided to set up my shooting bench. Kept an eye on em and the occasional funnel cloud that was touching down from time to time. Figured that I may have to allow for a bit of windage,when I started shooting, at least it was level though so that helped. Well to cut a long story short I wasn't set up for no more than a few minutes when wouldn't you know it a damn funnel touched down right in the center of parie town. Little beggars were sucked up like a strawberry squishy through a 7-11 straw. Honest, saw it all through my scope!:cry: Craziest thing you ever saw, they were going around and around. You know I would even say that the little buggers were screaming. Anyways, getting back to the story, like I said I was watching them through the scope, when one of the damn things was thrown clear and was coming straight at me at about 200kph 30 feet off the deck. I was thinking this ain't good. Guy might get hurt if that hit him. So I began a thinking better get him before he gets me! So decided that I would adjust the scope a few clicks for the height, had to act fast didn't have much time, (remember he's a coming at 200kph). Line up on the little sucker again, now I can see him clear as a bell at about a kilometer out. Lips were pulled back almost to his ass! Felt kinda sorry for him, BANG!!! Son of a gun must of cartwheeled a 1000 times and piled up at about 3feet in front of the bench!!!! Best damn shot I ever made. True story. Honest!:lol: Got it on my camera but unfortunately I didn't have a digital one or I would post some pics. Have a nice day, love you guys!!:lol:

Statler
02-27-2007, 06:59 PM
Forgot to say that I have my fire ******ant clothing on right now!

The Hermit
02-27-2007, 07:15 PM
LOL best laugh I've had all day!

dana
02-27-2007, 08:13 PM
99% of the animals I've killed have been well under 100 metres. Heck most are under 50. Would be lucky if my longest shot was 150 metres.

Ajsawden
02-27-2007, 09:01 PM
all i can say is anything over 400 yards is a long way...

goathead
02-27-2007, 09:17 PM
Always under 150 for me.Anything further out I cut down the distance its easier for me.

Krico
02-27-2007, 09:21 PM
I've never had to shoot too far. I think the furthest was a goat at about 225 metres.

elkster
02-28-2007, 01:18 AM
Statler,
That was just too much. We used to snare gophers with binder twine, when I was a kid. Got 25 cents for every tail. The only time I saw one in the air, my old man emptied his acetenlyne tank down a hole and then struck a spark. Needless to say, ther weren't no tail left that day.

Odd-6
02-28-2007, 08:54 AM
200 yds is the max range I have set for myself. I practice shooting (off-hand) thoughout spring/summer for fall hunting. If I want to see if I can hit anything over 200 yds, I'll go to a range/area and punch holes in paper.

30-06
03-19-2007, 08:27 PM
75 yards or so

todbartell
03-19-2007, 09:35 PM
300 yards on a coyote, furthest big game a mere 240 yards, most 150 and in

blaker_99
03-19-2007, 10:12 PM
Well last year on my 3rd goat hunt we came accross a nice 9 3/4" billy that we spotted from over a creek. Only way of having a chance at him was either hiking atleast 1 1/2-2hrs around the mountain or else taking him from where we were. I took a nice rest on a solid stump with my dad and uncle backing me up. My uncle range found the animal at 398 yards and that where I took him from. First shot was little high bu parralized him then second shot was in the shoulder and he dropped like a ton of bricks. Slid down a shale bank approx 75 yards and that was it. What a fun hunt! cheers.

Mr. Dean
03-20-2007, 12:32 AM
Freehand: To be standing upright with the rifle held/aimed/shouldered without assistance. eg; rest.

Right?

hunter1947
03-20-2007, 04:14 AM
180 yards was the longest shot standing without a rest. hunter 1947.

todbartell
03-20-2007, 08:42 AM
freehand - yes with no rest, standing

My furthese freehand shot was 165 yards, on a mulie, dropped him :D

Stone Sheep Steve
03-20-2007, 09:12 AM
With rest-a couple in the 320yd range(sheep and caribou)

Freehand-80yds

The biggest thing is that I won't let myself shoot if the crosshairs are moving around, rest or no rest, long range or short.

SSS

Rod
03-20-2007, 10:06 AM
My first moose was taken in Northern Ontario across a river over 20 years ago with my 7 Mag. At the time I was into long range target shooting and had huge confidence in my abilities as well as my rifle/load performance. Took a bull broadside at 500yds (measured from a topo map), three shots one each in the heart and lumgs and a parting texas heart shot after he got up and headed for the tree line.

The bull travelled about 50 yards.

Now that I'm a little older and don't shoot as much I would pass on a long shot like that. If conditions were perfect and I had no possibility of getting closer, had a perfect rest etc. I MIGHT shoot out to 300 but 200 to 250 would be more to my liking as a "long" shot.

When I was still into competition it was pretty normal for people to do pretty well out to 250 but scores fell off drastically with every 25 yds added to it. The majority of non-competition shooters who tried out to 500 missed the paper at least 50% of the time, at 1000 just getting on the target rack (5x5') would bring shouts of excitement.

Rod

Gateholio
03-20-2007, 10:21 AM
My longest offhand /freehand shot is 600 yards, a headshot.

I am serious.

Ltbullken
03-20-2007, 10:28 AM
Moose at 375 yds from a sitting position with a 300 Win Mag, 180 GS bullet. 2 quick shots and moose down! My hunting partner was impressed with the shot...but none too impressed with the shooter! Especially as we had to drag it up an embankment! :lol:

Mr. Dean
03-20-2007, 02:20 PM
My longest offhand /freehand shot is 600 yards, a headshot.

I am serious.

I hope that you were using a magnum...

Mattimoose
05-16-2007, 06:44 PM
I hope that you were using a magnum...

I'm not gonna touch that thing you were replying to with this with a ten-foot thread.:lol:

diggerpax
10-04-2007, 05:47 AM
488 yards on an antelope with a gun, not too impressive- but I did smack an antelope from 80 yards last year with my bow- right in the crease- I'd love to say it was all skill, but there was no doubt a little luck involved. I've seen many shots made in the 400's, but over 500 is an impressive shot- and if you didn't GPS or range find it, it doesn't count in my book.

hannibal
10-04-2007, 06:03 AM
about 80yrd. I don't kill many critters, but I always seem to be way close. Last year it was about 30 ft from me to a nice 4x5 mulie, with a 338 win mag, what are ya gonna do, wait till he runs?

diggerpax
10-04-2007, 06:17 AM
It must be hard to aim when all you can see is hair!

Wildman
10-04-2007, 07:23 AM
My longest offhand /freehand shot is 600 yards, a headshot.

I am serious.

Wow.........me 160 but usually within 100 or less.

diggerpax
10-04-2007, 07:25 AM
My longest offhand /freehand shot is 600 yards, a headshot.

I am serious.

Seriously lucky.

youngbuck
10-04-2007, 08:57 AM
Totally off topic but funny none the less.

120 yard par 3 ...2 different people...2 dead ducks.

At one of our company golf tournaments 2 females pulled off the double.

Female 1 puts the ball on the tee...strikes it.
It's heading for the drink and plunk, labels a duck sitting in the pond.
Dead duck #1
After some discussion and laughs, female #2 sets up her ball and plunk
Dead duck #2

back on topic.. myself alittle over 100 yards, poor bullet placement, 1.5 hour stalk and one more bullet in the head to finish it off.

Now back to your regular scheduled ego stroking.

big game walker hounds
10-04-2007, 09:31 AM
range found 764 yrds on a 2x2 bull moose with my sako 338 with 210 noslers, before that 538 yrds with 165 gr noslers out of my 30-06 on bull moose

browningboy
10-04-2007, 02:40 PM
I shot a grouse in the head at two miles with a 22 cal LR.
I'm serious too.:roll:

Gateholio
10-04-2007, 03:24 PM
Seriously lucky.


Naw, I pull that off all the time. 600 yard offhand is easy...


I'm serious.

chevy
10-04-2007, 03:25 PM
mine was a mulie i hammered at 550 yrds with a .300 win mag it dropped in its tracks

CanuckShooter
10-04-2007, 04:16 PM
Sounds like either a lot of BSing going on in this thread or a lot of irresponsible shooters out there that are willing to take a bad shot on an animal? A "bad shot" being one that is outside of a range that the majority of us cannot make with any surety of a clean kill. I for one think it's pretty sick to gut shoot an animal at 500 or 600 yds..... if your not proficient at that range..and cannot hit a pie plate EVERY shot at that range then you shouldn't be taking the shot!!:mad:

Gateholio
10-04-2007, 04:33 PM
No, no...don't gut shoot them! Hit them in the head. RIgth between the eyes.

sparkes3
10-04-2007, 05:20 PM
170 offhand no scope/ no second needed. mulie in the tulameens two years ago 308.

Will
10-04-2007, 05:21 PM
Barn swallow with my Daisy Red Ryder..............947 paceshttp://usera.imagecave.com/BCWILL/Smilies/onCrack.gif

Tarp Man
10-04-2007, 05:23 PM
this year's 3 point blacktail, at 230m, off a solid rest and with a not too pounding heart. 30/06 with Fed Fusion 165gr. One shot, 20 steps and dropped.

browningboy
10-04-2007, 06:51 PM
I shot a knat in the ass at 750 yards with a .222 offhand with one broken leg!
I'm serious!

Bowzone_Mikey
10-04-2007, 07:05 PM
LMao ....
some funny stuff here


my longest ... a fair ways took me about an hour and half to walk there

Muley ...accross a Coulee .... a fair ways ... was shooting from prone position ... rifle well rested and steady

browningboy
10-04-2007, 07:07 PM
LMao ....
some funny stuff here


my longest ... a fair ways took me about an hour and half to walk there

Muley ...accross a Coulee .... a fair ways ... was shooting from prone position ... rifle well rested and steady

You forgot to mention it was uphill, both ways with snow???

Thunderstix
10-04-2007, 07:15 PM
241 yards. My son, 247 yards.

chucknelson
10-04-2007, 07:30 PM
Longest: Bighorn, 427yds, 06 and 150gr TSX.

Shortest: Whitetail, 18', 280 Rem and 150gr partition.

Despite someone elses opinion, I "hunted" harder for the Bighorn.

big game walker hounds
10-04-2007, 07:30 PM
no word of a lie that 764 yr shot is no bs, got 2 witnesses, gun was 19" high at 100yrds, had it set up for 400 yrds. for my goat hunt up on the top end of the omnica river.

Paulyman
10-04-2007, 08:03 PM
my furthest shot is 50 yards, I actually wonder what it is like to shoot an animal from any further.

BCLongshot
10-04-2007, 08:13 PM
Well not that it matters 580m 1 shot

Derek_Erickson
10-04-2007, 08:17 PM
Was it flying:shock:


Barn swallow with my Daisy Red Ryder..............947 paceshttp://usera.imagecave.com/BCWILL/Smilies/onCrack.gif

alremkin
10-04-2007, 08:29 PM
Elk @550 yds 2 shots
Moose @600yds 12 shots
Both with 338 250 gr Sierras.

p&p
10-04-2007, 09:15 PM
My longest shot which was authenticated by a high end range finder,was 468yds.on a nice 4 point whitetail. I was shooting a 270 wthby. mag(Klinegunther) loaded with130 gr. grandslam handloads.I shot twice both bullets were 2 inches apart in the lungs.

Cap'n rotten
10-04-2007, 11:11 PM
So what is the longest range you have shot and killed a big game animal?,and how far did the animal travel after the hit?:eek:
I took a shot at a mulie in the empire valley after having read some bullistics on 150 grain 30/06 and estimated the shot @ 600yrds? then decided that I should aim about 21/2ft. over his back.Well whatever I did it worked with a bullit in the spine that took out his rear end "lucky shot maybe"! I once took a calf moose by aiming a foot over its ears down hill and took in the cheek and out the other side of the neck "maybe 500yrds?"Farside told me there was lots of controversy about me taking a mulie @ 330yds. with a 30/30 last year in Quenell last year,but this year I'm going there again and taking a tape measure,just to make sure I'm not "full of crap".I save that for fishing!8)

todbartell
10-05-2007, 12:15 AM
this thread disgusts me for the most part

I couldnt even fathom attempting a 500+ yard shot in the field on anyhting but a coyote, and I shoot all spring and summer

Ltbullken
10-05-2007, 03:35 AM
Moose at 375 yds with a 300 Win Mag.

Lil Buck
10-05-2007, 06:26 AM
The furthest kill I made was when I was guiding a client.He made first and second shot at 150 -160 then the ram ran and stopped at 468 (range finder ) I made one shot with the 30-06 and dropped like a sac of ?>:@#@$$%..

All my kills under 210...

LB

BlackBear
10-05-2007, 09:14 AM
The longest shot I've taken is 175yards, one shot, on a Mulie. I set my limit at 200yards. There are far too many factors that can affect the shot (i.e., wind, slope, animal movement, etc.). Above all else, my priority is to make a clean kill. Aside from the Mulie at 175yards, all my shots have been inside 40yards. One whitetail was very close, at 8ft.

The animals I've seen at 400 plus yards appear very small through the scope. I can't imagine attempting a shot at that distance.

Islandeer
10-05-2007, 04:20 PM
Longest on a bear @ 175. I pride myself on getting close, usually in the 60 yd or less zone. I'd rather brag about getting close than shooting far. 8)ll

greybark
10-05-2007, 04:33 PM
I'd rather brag about getting close than shooting far. 8)ll[/quote]

A few sensible posts here and in particular this one ..

JoshLedoux
10-05-2007, 04:47 PM
Never anything over 100 that wasn't paper. honestly a good portion of this thread sounds like BS especially the ones that say it was gp's rangefinded and witnessed.

Will
10-05-2007, 04:48 PM
Was it flying:shock:
I don't remember.........I think I was 8...hence the small paces:lol:

Kechika
10-05-2007, 04:51 PM
800 Yards from the hip,on the run,heavy cross wind,uphill,in a snowstorm ect ect.Yup Im just that good.

Gateholio
10-05-2007, 04:58 PM
Just got back from a little hunting trip. I shot a deer at 987 yards, confirmed wiht a LRF.

I took a rest thsi time, not shooting offhand. I laid my 22 Hornet over a dead log, and held a little over, when I shot,t he deer dropped,head shot.

That 22 Hornet is magic, kills like lightning!

Will
10-05-2007, 05:39 PM
Rangefinders are for sissy's that can't tell distances or they shoot enimic cartridges with cannonball trajectories:biggrin:

Amphib once said.........
" Gunstore Counterman says if I buy the 7mmUltra Magnum I won't need no rangefinder........." :lol:;-)

RMG
10-05-2007, 08:39 PM
A shy under 600yrds, range finder, 7mm mag, held full chest cavity over hump, calf moose, solid as a stump rest, wide open clear cut, no wind. He just layed down on the spot. Actually tried several stumps before I found one that was right.

lucky hunter
10-05-2007, 08:54 PM
longest i have shot is 250 yards at a mule

diggerpax
10-05-2007, 10:43 PM
longest i have shot is 250 yards at a mule

Did you hold at the top of the pack saddle?

30-378-magnum
10-05-2007, 10:48 PM
480yds mulie buck ,rangefinder,practiceshooting out too 600yds

76Chevy
10-06-2007, 12:04 AM
70yrds lol. I dont know how you guys can shoot at thing 500+ yards away. I can't even see an animal if it's that far away. and if I did the crosshairs would completly blot out the animal. you guys must have really fancy scopes or something.

mind you Ive only taken 3 big game animals so far. Moose,Black Bear,Mule Deer. the deer was about 25yrds, the bear was about 40yrds and the moose was about 70yrds.

diggerpax
10-06-2007, 12:20 AM
A high power scope helps a lot, and a bipod is a must for me at anything over 200- and you need a gun that can get out there- ultra mags

MRP
10-06-2007, 12:43 PM
Lets all go to the 1000yd shoot in Burns Lake.
You can't BS paper!

alremkin
10-06-2007, 01:38 PM
MRP, I'm moving up to Burns Lake next week. One of the biggest attractions of the area is it's 1,000 yard range.8-) Of course I'm hoping to be in the competion next year. Will you be there?

kjohn
10-06-2007, 03:35 PM
800 Yards from the hip,on the run,heavy cross wind,uphill,in a snowstorm ect ect.Yup Im just that good.

I love that one. Me too. I usually shoot from the hip, around corners over hills, rain, sleet, snow, etc. I use my BB gun for most big game. Honest!! :tongue::tongue:

elkdom
10-07-2007, 09:23 PM
I killed a 6x6 bull elk at 7 yards, yep not a misprint ( 21 feet ) used a 338 win mag handloaded 275 grn speer sp , scoped with a Leopold 3x9x40 is that a good shot ???? I was pleased! oh it only took one shot.

lucky hunter
10-08-2007, 12:11 PM
Did you hold at the top of the pack saddle?


whoops lost my head there - mule deer:-D:roll::???:

BCrams
10-08-2007, 12:39 PM
I'd like to put together you group of hunters who claim to have made shots over 400 yards to a gun range, on a calm day, and have you demonstrate your skills at hitting a animal sized target at the ranges you have claimed to hit your animals.

I'll bet everything that nearly all and every one of you could not do it under the most ideal conditions.

Factor in the wind, less than ideal rests (we know you didn't pack the bench rest you used at the range)......trajectories, bull drop etc.....

I am calling pure BS on your shots. In the event you "attempted" those long shots, it was highly unlikely it was your skill, but rather your foolish attempt to "hit" the animal. In the event you were "lucky" to hit an animal, it leaves me the question of how many animals you may have wounded and lost as a result of attempted long range shots and don't tell me you can tell whether you hit an animal or not at that range.

There are many of us on this site who shoot all the time and know what we are capable of and I can safely say that none of us would attempt shots you were shooting.

You guys know who you are, and you're purely unethical when you attempt those kind of shots and once again - prove me wrong with a live demonstration on paper (consistently).

horshur
10-08-2007, 02:58 PM
I'd like to put together you group of hunters who claim to have made shots over 400 yards to a gun range, on a calm day, and have you demonstrate your skills at hitting a animal sized target at the ranges you have claimed to hit your animals.

I'll bet everything that nearly all and every one of you could not do it under the most ideal conditions.

Factor in the wind, less than ideal rests (we know you didn't pack the bench rest you used at the range)......trajectories, bull drop etc.....

I am calling pure BS on your shots. In the event you "attempted" those long shots, it was highly unlikely it was your skill, but rather your foolish attempt to "hit" the animal. In the event you were "lucky" to hit an animal, it leaves me the question of how many animals you may have wounded and lost as a result of attempted long range shots and don't tell me you can tell whether you hit an animal or not at that range.

There are many of us on this site who shoot all the time and know what we are capable of and I can safely say that none of us would attempt shots you were shooting.

You guys know who you are, and you're purely unethical when you attempt those kind of shots and once again - prove me wrong with a live demonstration on paper (consistently).

Greg--Can't argue with you needed to be said I'll watch your back.
Longest shot I ever made 330 paces walked it out myself but.......the gully ate up some yardage so I'm thinking maybe 250-300.
I think it is more becoming of a hunter to brag how close rather than how far......7 paces close enough?

eastkoot
10-08-2007, 03:19 PM
Even if these long shots aren't Bull S**t, taking them and the likely chance of wounding an animal is..

30-06
10-08-2007, 03:30 PM
shot at a buck about 150 yard's last night . freehand shot. i still dont know how i missed . it was a beauty buck . got a small one this morning

alremkin
10-08-2007, 03:40 PM
I'd like to put together you group of hunters who claim to have made shots over 400 yards to a gun range, on a calm day, and have you demonstrate your skills at hitting a animal sized target at the ranges you have claimed to hit your animals.

I'd like to see this too.


I'll bet everything that nearly all and every one of you could not do it under the most ideal conditions.

How much are you willing to wager? And since this is your idea will you give me odds?


Factor in the wind, less than ideal rests (we know you didn't pack the bench rest you used at the range)......trajectories, bull drop etc.....

If it's windy don't shoot. The biggest part of hunting is finding the animals, so on windy days enjoy watching them undisturbed and wait for ideal conditions. Rests can be improvised read my article Elk Valley Elk here. Trajectories are memorized and I now have an LFR rangefinder I didn't have then.

I am calling pure BS on your shots. In the event you "attempted" those long shots, it was highly unlikely it was your skill, but rather your foolish attempt to "hit" the animal. In the event you were "lucky" to hit an animal, it leaves me the question of how many animals you may have wounded and lost as a result of attempted long range shots and don't tell me you can tell whether you hit an animal or not at that range.

I've never lost a wounded animal.



There are many of us on this site who shoot all the time and know what we are capable of and I can safely say that none of us would attempt shots you were shooting.

A man's gotta know his limitations...I love that quote.


You guys know who you are, and you're purely unethical when you attempt those kind of shots and once again - prove me wrong with a live demonstration on paper (consistently).

Surely you heard of, "Hail Mary Time".

I felt good about the elk kill, but the moose went beyond what I consider good ethics. I shot one it's rear legs off and when it bled out I was able to move in close to finish it off. When one pushes the envelope sometimes we go beyond what's proper. When this moose died it was 7 miles in the bush in the excitment of the pursuit I lost my extra box of ammo so that when I finished it off my gun was empty and I was out of ammo 7 miles from the road in grizzly country with moose blood all over the nearby hillside. My partner came up from the valley floor and we packed out the 2 back legs that night. Returning the next day with the rest of our party to partially debone and pack out the rest of the meat. So yes this was a case of sort winging shots and I've stepped back from that...I'd found my limits as the saying goes while the animal didn't escape to die a slow death, it was about an hour from the time I wounded it until I put it out of it's misery which I agree is cruel and unethical and it's not something I choose to repeat.:icon_frow

To remedy the situation I'm moving to Burns Lake next week and plan to become a "range rat" at what I'm told is the best 1,000 range in BC.

I'm told the 1,000 yard shoot is usually in early May. As you mention "a live paper demonstration" I propose we have a 500 yard shoot if it can be arranged the same weekend. Each entrant puts up $100 the course of fire is three events of 5 shots with a 5 minute time limit one off the bench, one kneeling or sitting sling allowed, and one standing unsuported. The prize money is to be evenly split between the winners of the three events. Ok, there it is; the gauntlet has been thrown down who's game?8-)

Gateholio
10-08-2007, 04:04 PM
Surely you heard of, "Hail Mary Time".


I'm told the 1,000 yard shoot is usually in early May. As you mention "a live paper demonstration" I propose we have a 500 yard shoot if it can be arranged the same weekend. Each entrant puts up $100 the course of fire is three events of 5 shots with a 5 minute time limit one off the bench, one kneeling or sitting sling allowed, and one standing unsuported. The prize money is to be evenly split between the winners of the three events. Ok, there it is; the gauntlet has been thrown down who's game?

Shooting at 500 yards off hand or even kneeling really isn't much of a test. That is a long way to shoot in fairly unsupported positions. Some competitive shooters do it, but they are standing at the range, not hiking in the hills.:grin:

At 500 yards, most of the time, I can hit a milk jug, sitting, using shooting sticks and a backrest (like a tree or my truck tire) I shoot a fair bit, too.

I wouldn't want to shoot past 400-450 at an animal. And I wouldn't want to do it from a unsupported or semi supported position.

I've screwed up shots at much closer range than that.:grin:

Kechika
10-08-2007, 04:06 PM
I think it maybe time for a HBC shootout.

alremkin
10-08-2007, 04:41 PM
Shooting is an important part hunting since 500 yards seems to be very commonly mentioned here as long range, I thought it would be the best distance for our competition. Of course at Burns Lake at that time there's also the 1,000 yard event for those who want to compete at longer range. I thought 3 types of shooting bench, kneeling or sitting with sling, and standing unsuported would give a reasonable selection of huning type shooting positions. I normally try to hike in such a way as to be able to get off a reasonable shot ie not breathing really hard. Then of course for those who want to throw in the hiking we already have Biathalone. Anyway I think it's fitting and proper for huntingbc to hold a shooting competion and I've put forward my proposals.

RMG
10-08-2007, 04:45 PM
I am calling pure BS on your shots. In the event you "attempted" those long shots, it was highly unlikely it was your skill, but rather your foolish attempt to "hit" the animal. In the event you were "lucky" to hit an animal, it leaves me the question of how many animals you may have wounded and lost as a result of attempted long range shots and don't tell me you can tell whether you hit an animal or not at that range.

There are many of us on this site who shoot all the time and know what we are capable of and I can safely say that none of us would attempt shots you were shooting.

You guys know who you are, and you're purely unethical when you attempt those kind of shots and once again - prove me wrong with a live demonstration on paper (consistently).


Ouch
I have spent more time tracking, game that has been shot by myself and other hunters at ranges less than 100 yards, than I have tracking wounded game at ranges shot in excess of 300 yards. Most shots taken by hunters under 100 yards tend to be quick and off hand. At greater distances you have way more time to make one shot count. I have only taken 3 shots at animals of any kind at distances above 300 yards and every one resulted in one shot kills where the animal layed down with in a few yards of the shot. Know your limitations, know your gun, and dont ever make a shot that you cant be 100% sure of, be that 10 yards or 1000 yards. Those are my ethics on long shots. If I know I am capable of pulling a 600 yard, one shot kill, is that unethical? any more than gut shooting an animal at 100 yards. I have and will continue to let any and all animals walk away from me, where I am not 100% confident in my ability to make a one shot kill. I do not see how you nor anyone else can call those long distance shots I make or anyone else makes as unethical. Those few of use that have successfully made long shots, would in no way attempt to do such if we were not extremely confident in our ability, our equipment and most of all the animals right to a quick humane dispatch.

Sorry if I have offended anyone with my ethics, but as you can tell I take great pride in being a hunter.

Gateholio
10-08-2007, 05:00 PM
Don't get me wrong, 500 yards isn't a bad distanc,e it's just most people dont' have any business shooting at game unsupported at that distance.:biggrin:

I know I am not about to shoot at game at 500 yards offhand!!! :eek:

greybark
10-08-2007, 05:17 PM
8-) Alright ,Already , Those who claim and protect their long shot capabilities are forgeting a basic premis . That premis is that we are all talking of a (one shot kill) percentage game LIKE IT OR NOT.
OK for the sake of a reasonable discussion lets start this percentage game (generally speaking) with a bass data line of (remember generaly speaking) ---100% -one shot kill at 50 yards (MULE DEER )
---98% - ---------------100 yards
---95%------------------150 yards
---90%------------------200 yards
---85%------------------250 yards
---80%------------------300 yards
---75%------------------350 yards
---70%------------------400 yards
---65% ----------------- 500 yards
--- 60%------------------600 yards
---55%-------------------700 yards
--- 50% ------------------800 yards
As some have posted "talk and claims are cheep" . It is the number of animals wounded and lost that leads one to think (like Horsur) that we should line up these long one shot kill shooters put the money down and lets see reality set in ...

BCrams
10-08-2007, 05:41 PM
As some have posted "talk and claims are cheep" . It is the number of animals wounded and lost that leads one to think (like Horsur) that we should line up these long one shot kill shooters put the money down and lets see reality set in ...

Exactly.

I am not into some competition shoot. We're talking about hunting.

I would love for these long range "confidence" shooters with their one shot kills put up a demonstration for me at the gun range at animal targets similar to the range they made these kills at under very ideal conditions - such as no wind, dead rest etc .... and see them demonstrate their shooting skills that will back up their long range hunting 1 shot kills ...... and we havn't even got into the wind and judging distances (I hope each long range shooter knew the distance before hand otherwise how the heck would you know the hold etc to account for distance ... and don't forget the wind effect etc ..... less than ideal rest etc) ....

greybark
10-08-2007, 06:07 PM
8)Hey BCRams, on top of all of that one should remember that these long one shot artists have their hunting rifles sighted in around 200-250 yards and involve holdovers measuring in inches . Lets see now judging inches at 500 plus yards ??????

Gateholio
10-08-2007, 06:27 PM
8)Hey BCRams, on top of all of that one should remember that these long one shot artists have their hunting rifles sighted in around 200-250 yards and involve holdovers measuring in inches . Lets see now judging inches at 500 plus yards ??????

When I practice at longish ranges (such as 400-450-500) I use a chart and change the scope setting to reflect the distance, then hold straight on.8)

Just "holding over" is pretty challenging, and often requires more luck. If you are just "holding over" with no real system in place, then you probably dont' really know where your bullet is going to hit.

Cappy
10-08-2007, 07:00 PM
When I shoot long ranges I use the method that Gatehouse talks about. The rifles I use for long range all have target turrets on the scopes and it involves dialing up the required MOA for the range I'm shooting at. I regularily practice out to 550yards, usually 2-3 times a week and once every two months, sometimes more I get out to 1000. That being said the longest shot I've taken so far is around 250 yards and most right around the 100 yard mark.

I personnaly wouldn't shoot much past 100 yards unsupported. If I was going to take a long shot, 500 yards or more. It would have to be with one of the rifles I use at that distance, from a prone supported position and the distance would have to be known so a rangefinder would be in order.....basically if the stars weren't in alignment I'd get closer.

Wildfoot
10-08-2007, 07:32 PM
I took a beaver from 400 yards with a throwing star. No BS. I saw him up top a tree on a ridge crest and had to take the shot. I couldnt stalk in any closer because the ground was covered in corn flakes (semi truck crashed or something and dumped them all). The first star cut down the tree, and the second one cut him in half. I then threw a thrid one and it gutted and skinned the beast!

RMG
10-08-2007, 07:38 PM
I took a beaver from 400 yards with a throwing star. No BS. I saw him up top a tree on a ridge crest and had to take the shot. I couldnt stalk in any closer because the ground was covered in corn flakes (semi truck crashed or something and dumped them all). The first star cut down the tree, and the second one cut him in half. I then threw a thrid one and it gutted and skinned the beast!


Hope you were not in British Columbia when you did this, as it would be very unethical of you. Throwing stars for the harvesting of trees, and beavers are not allowed in this great province.

MIL720
10-08-2007, 07:56 PM
Shot a black bear with a 30.06 at 364 yds. He was distanced with a range finder and fell dead where he stood.

Avalanche123
10-08-2007, 08:14 PM
Wow....With some of the distances mentioned, is that even "hunting"? I guess it is, .....minus the "stalk", LOL.

My 2 cents.....

Ciskman
10-08-2007, 08:27 PM
Intersting:twisted:

KodiakHntr
10-08-2007, 08:28 PM
How many of you guys that are slinging s**t at the guys who can shoot long distance have ever been to a high power silhouette match? How many have shot in one?
I'm betting none of you.
When you can hit AA, AAA or Master status in the hunting rifle category, see how much challenge a calm mule deer offers at 500 METERS.
When you can hit 30 plus targets out of 40 of life size game, off hand, from ranges from 100 meters to 500 meters, you are in a completely different class of shooter. Put that same shooter and rifle combination out anywhere, in any province, with a bipod or shooting sticks, and see if he (or she) can't put one through the lungs of a deer or goat each and every time.
So just because you can't do it, doesn't mean there isn't anyone who can.

Wildfoot
10-08-2007, 08:39 PM
Hope you were not in British Columbia when you did this, as it would be very unethical of you. Throwing stars for the harvesting of trees, and beavers are not allowed in this great province.

Whatever. Its ethical because I practice like 10 times a week out to 2000 yards with my stars. I sleep with them under my pillow. I prepare all my food for dinner with one throw of my star. I have skills. Who are you to judge my harvesting techniques. With a good throw I easliy have 1000's of ft. lbs of KE. I have never lost an animal to a star, except for that one cambodian monkey - but he flinched so it wasnt my fault.

Using them for duck hunting is pretty hard though. If you dont lead enough you sure lose a lot of meat!

greybark
10-08-2007, 08:54 PM
:) Hey Kodiakhtr , I`m one of those so called shit slingers and it is for a very good reason . By the way I spent over a year attached from 3 Fd Sqn CME to the the Paticia `s Bisley (sniper team) . We practiced twice each day did qualify to go to the Big Show "Bisley". Others and myself are qualified to give their opinion . My comments are not aimed at you but as I posted at the general population . I admire your shooting ability on those tiny steel targets .
As you probably know Natures way of protecting "grasers" is to be constantly in motion to evade predators and also to prevent over grazeing .
Allow me to be a bit of a devils advacate , I know from Trap Shooting that three things were very important , one the unlock time of your mind ,the unlock time of the trigger mechanism amd the unlock time of your trigger finger . The trouble occurrs when the total unlock time occurrs when the Deer takes one step forward while grazing , to be fair this can happen at close ranges .
Cheers

RMG
10-08-2007, 08:57 PM
Whatever. Its ethical because I practice like 10 times a week out to 2000 yards with my stars. I sleep with them under my pillow. I prepare all my food for dinner with one throw of my star. I have skills. Who are you to judge my harvesting techniques. With a good throw I easliy have 1000's of ft. lbs of KE. I have never lost an animal to a star, except for that one cambodian monkey - but he flinched so it wasnt my fault.

Using them for duck hunting is pretty hard though. If you dont lead enough you sure lose a lot of meat!


At the risk of being rediculous, the harvesting of beavers on land in British Columbia is allowed only by a Killing snare, AIHTS certified killing traps, Live box traps, Rifle, Shotgun or Bow. The use of your killing star is illegal, therefore it is UNETHICAL, as well the use of a single projectile is illegal for the harvesting of magratory game birds, so again the use of your star is illegal and again UNETHICAL. So perhaps you should take your unethical practices away with you.

Wildfoot
10-08-2007, 09:13 PM
lol thanks RMG. I will put my bush ninja practices behind me :)

Im pretty sure I coulnt even throw one one hundred yards! And since they are illegal... I dont have one. Especially after my blowgun inncident!

and to add my real opinion.. I dont think id shoot over 200. Id need a rest after 100 yards. Im pretty new to shooting - I try to get out to the range often, but $$$ limits my fun. I think a long shot with a rifle is just as ethical with a bow shot. If you are 100% confident with your gear, skills and the shot then its OK, but the longer you are from the target the more likely things will go wrong.

BCrams
10-08-2007, 09:37 PM
How many of you guys that are slinging s**t at the guys who can shoot long distance have ever been to a high power silhouette match? How many have shot in one?
I'm betting none of you.
When you can hit AA, AAA or Master status in the hunting rifle category, see how much challenge a calm mule deer offers at 500 METERS.
When you can hit 30 plus targets out of 40 of life size game, off hand, from ranges from 100 meters to 500 meters, you are in a completely different class of shooter. Put that same shooter and rifle combination out anywhere, in any province, with a bipod or shooting sticks, and see if he (or she) can't put one through the lungs of a deer or goat each and every time.
So just because you can't do it, doesn't mean there isn't anyone who can.


Are you talking about yourself? What class / status are you in? Would love to see you put a demo sometime.

Don't go thinking some of the mudslingers are guys who can't shoot ;)

Kirby
10-08-2007, 09:46 PM
Far enough to know I wouldn't wanna try again. Close enough that I knew I could do it.

Kirby

waistdeep
10-08-2007, 10:23 PM
420 yards cow elk both lungs, 338 Sako Nosler Partions works just fine with 92 gains of IMR 4320

BCrams
10-08-2007, 10:23 PM
Far enough to know I wouldn't wanna try again. Close enough that I knew I could do it.

Kirby

Kirby ..... you should know better than to try 150 yard shots with your bow.

JoshLedoux
10-08-2007, 10:39 PM
Whatever. Its ethical because I practice like 10 times a week out to 2000 yards with my stars. I sleep with them under my pillow. I prepare all my food for dinner with one throw of my star. I have skills. Who are you to judge my harvesting techniques. With a good throw I easliy have 1000's of ft. lbs of KE. I have never lost an animal to a star, except for that one cambodian monkey - but he flinched so it wasnt my fault.

Using them for duck hunting is pretty hard though. If you dont lead enough you sure lose a lot of meat!


Oh come on .............this is just funny, if you can't laugh at this what can you?

Will
10-08-2007, 11:40 PM
How many of you guys that are slinging s**t at the guys who can shoot long distance have ever been to a high power silhouette match? How many have shot in one?
I'm betting none of you.

1st, The entire point of this discussion is not whether or not it's possible but whether or not it's the "right" thing to do.

BTW, Targets don't move, standup, step, turn, etc.
Comparing a kill shot on a living critter to a hit on a steel silhouette ? Ever looked at some of the locations of the grey splats on those targets ?

Surprise even a Steel Ram falls over when it's hit in the a$$....................not so much for the real thing:roll:

Second, You'll lose that bet....a few of us have shot matches once or twice FYI :wink:

KodiakHntr
10-09-2007, 07:21 AM
1st, The entire point of this discussion is not whether or not it's possible but whether or not it's the "right" thing to do.

BTW, Targets don't move, standup, step, turn, etc.
Comparing a kill shot on a living critter to a hit on a steel silhouette ? Ever looked at some of the locations of the grey splats on those targets ?

Surprise even a Steel Ram falls over when it's hit in the a$$....................not so much for the real thing:roll:

Second, You'll lose that bet....a few of us have shot matches once or twice FYI :wink:


Actually, I think the original point was a simple "how far and how far did it go?".

And as to "right", what is "right" for you might not be "right" for someone else. You CANNOT impose YOUR ethics on someone else. Your ethics are based on what YOU have seen and learned through your experiences.

And I am well aware of the fact that animals move having shot a few of them over the years. And as to the splats on steel critters, bear in mind, these things are shot OFFHAND. Meaning unsupported. If someone can hit a steel animal offhand more often than they miss they must be doing something right. They must have a tuned rifle, and exceptional trigger control, wind doping, and ballistic knowledge. Comparing someone like this to someone who has " ...shot matches once or twice FYI..." is like comparing apples to oranges.
Anyway, I'm off topic. I'm simply saying that someone who is intimately familiar with their rifle, (like the familiarity you get from shooting a hundred or more rounds per WEEK of highpower) may have a very different skill set than the average joe shooter who feels 200 yards is a long shot.

KodiakHntr
10-09-2007, 07:28 AM
Are you talking about yourself? What class / status are you in? Would love to see you put a demo sometime.

Don't go thinking some of the mudslingers are guys who can't shoot ;)

Myself, no, not anymore. I haven't shot any high power for probably 7 years. Small bore still, yes. I used to shoot AA in hunter class highpower, and occasionally hit AAA every now and again, but I highly doubt I could do it now.

It is truly amazing what that amount and distance of shooting will do to your confidence. Shooting at something that doesn't have a set aiming point (much like a critter) is a wonderful skill builder. And once your rifle and scope is set up, hitting them waaay out there is really pretty simple. Simple enough that if you are using a rest you can pretty much choose where you want to drop that bullet. As in, do you want me to shoot him in eye, do you want me to shoot him in the pecker...

KodiakHntr
10-09-2007, 07:34 AM
:) Hey Kodiakhtr , I`m one of those so called shit slingers and it is for a very good reason . By the way I spent over a year attached from 3 Fd Sqn CME to the the Paticia `s Bisley (sniper team) . We practiced twice each day did qualify to go to the Big Show "Bisley". Others and myself are qualified to give their opinion . My comments are not aimed at you but as I posted at the general population . I admire your shooting ability on those tiny steel targets .
As you probably know Natures way of protecting "grasers" is to be constantly in motion to evade predators and also to prevent over grazeing .
Allow me to be a bit of a devils advacate , I know from Trap Shooting that three things were very important , one the unlock time of your mind ,the unlock time of the trigger mechanism amd the unlock time of your trigger finger . The trouble occurrs when the total unlock time occurrs when the Deer takes one step forward while grazing , to be fair this can happen at close ranges .
Cheers

True enough. Animals move. Steel ones don't. But to be fair, most guys that have the skills to shoot stuff waaay off aren't taking low percentage shots. (IE. spooked animals, tense critters, etc.)
Of course, the nimrods that bang away at anything just because they can see it are of a different class all together.

Will
10-09-2007, 08:36 AM
As in, do you want me to shoot him in eye, do you want me to shoot him in the pecker...
The trouble with the "Long range hunting shot" talk is it inevitably turns into the BS statements like you just posted.........:roll:

Kirby
10-09-2007, 11:25 AM
And I am well aware of the fact that animals move having shot a few of them over the years. And as to the splats on steel critters, bear in mind, these things are shot OFFHAND. Meaning unsupported. If someone can hit a steel animal offhand more often than they miss they must be doing something right. They must have a tuned rifle, and exceptional trigger control, wind doping, and ballistic knowledge. Comparing someone like this to someone who has " ...shot matches once or twice FYI..." is like comparing apples to oranges.
Anyway, I'm off topic. I'm simply saying that someone who is intimately familiar with their rifle, (like the familiarity you get from shooting a hundred or more rounds per WEEK of highpower) may have a very different skill set than the average joe shooter who feels 200 yards is a long shot.

Keep in mind this steel is shot at known ranges, with static control. You have minutes to prepare, read wind, ready dope, calm your breathing. Not alot like making the shot in field conditions(even with a better rest). An ability to connect on paper or steel does not mean an ability to connect on an animal.

And as BCwill said some of us have played with targets before. Chances are you have shot with some of us over the years.

That being said there are some amazing shooters I have shot with over the years who I have no doubt are capable of 700-800 yard shots on animals.

Kirby

chucknelson
10-09-2007, 12:49 PM
To those that think you can't or shouldn't shoot game at longer ranges. Nobody but me knows under what kinds of conditions I'm shooting my game in. Nobody. So spare me the bleeding heart, I'm ethical and you're not routine. Everyone is an expert, especially those in the 2 inches high at a hundred club. If I want to shoot a ram/elk/pronghorn at a known range beyond this arbitrary magic 300 yd mark I will. Cause I've practiced at those ranges under field conditions using field rests and know I'm pretty darn proficient at it. If I don't think I can make the shot I won't. Just cause you can't doesn't mean I can't.

I don't hunt to shoot game at long range, but I do prepare for it if that situation arises.

KodiakHntr
10-12-2007, 07:53 AM
Well said.
+1

KodiakHntr
10-12-2007, 07:59 AM
Keep in mind this steel is shot at known ranges, with static control. You have minutes to prepare, read wind, ready dope, calm your breathing. Not alot like making the shot in field conditions(even with a better rest). An ability to connect on paper or steel does not mean an ability to connect on an animal.


Kirby

Of course. And why wouldn't a hunter who is going to shoot something "way out there" have a known range? Range finders are pretty cheap these days on ebay. And if you are shooting something out there, chances are good that you have the time to dope the wind, calm your breathing, etc. Anything that I've shot at longer than average range (that is, judging from the numbers thrown out here by most) has been pretty relaxed. Minutes, and minutes to prepare, etc...
And while I realize that just because someone can hit paper or steel it doesn't mean they can kill animals, it sure goes a long way towards being able to.
I for one don't usually get excited at the thought of killing something, so don't run into the "buckfever" that seems common to some. Don't know if others a like this or not, or if it is peculiar to me.

puppychow
10-12-2007, 08:56 AM
I have been successful at a little over 300 yards. I had a perfect rest and lot of time to take the shot. 3oo yards is a long ways for me to shoot. I have seen video on hunters taking shots at 800+ yards to over 1000 yards. These guys must be snipers in their last life. Puppy.

GoatGuy
10-12-2007, 09:26 AM
I would love for these long range "confidence" shooters with their one shot kills put up a demonstration for me at the gun range at animal targets similar to the range they made these kills at under very ideal conditions - such as no wind, dead rest etc ....

Exactly, I had a goat client from Michigan talkin' it up big time in camp about all the 500+ yrd shots he's made and he brought the same gun and had no problem reaching out there - 300wsm done to the nuts, weed burner and all the rest of the junk they show up with. Had one of them personalities that needed an adjustment.

See billy, stock billy, get within 400 yrds, perfect rest, "Ok, let's see it" - -reply " too windy, too steep, let's get closer". Laying over a rock at 180 yrds and 3 shots later he finally got his goat! :tongue: Heck of a shot!

No different than the bow hunter that can't hit a friggen' black bear at 15 yrds but figures he's good out to 60.

The big buck always gets away - he's usually atleast 200 yards farther away and 50" bigger than he would have been had the hunter finished the job and put the critter on the ground. Moose are always atleast 50", black bears 6ft, grizz 7ft, mulies 170, wt's 150 and elk are always over 300, Stone's are 40", rockies are booner's for sure!!! Did I miss anything?

Hunters are bsers - it's in our nature. Thing is it comes more natural to some than others!

GoatGuy
10-12-2007, 09:28 AM
I should also mention I had a client who was a sniper in the Swedish military - - showed up with a .308 and refused to shoot at 4 legged critters over 200 metres.

Will
10-12-2007, 05:15 PM
I have seen video on hunters taking shots at 800+ yards to over 1000 yards. These guys must be snipers in their last life. Puppy.
Not Snipers...............Just Morons:neutral:

MRP
10-12-2007, 05:20 PM
MRP, I'm moving up to Burns Lake next week. One of the biggest attractions of the area is it's 1,000 yard range.8-) Of course I'm hoping to be in the competion next year. Will you be there?
If I can. PG is making a 1000 yd range to.

Will
10-12-2007, 05:47 PM
... not once in a blue moon was a hunter justified in shooting at a big game animal over 300 yards away.
.................

chucknelson
10-12-2007, 06:26 PM
Originally Posted by Jack O'Connor
... not once in a blue moon was a hunter justified in shooting at a big game animal over 300 yards away.


He's on record as having done it himself. More than once.

Will
10-12-2007, 06:52 PM
He's on record as having done it himself. More than once.
Then His experience on the topic only help "solidify" his remarks regarding "Necessity" now doesn't it.....;)

Will
10-12-2007, 08:17 PM
I hear shots going off one after another at least 8 in total .I walk up the side of the ridge close to where the moose was standing and see the big bull trying to walk acrooss the slide ,I lean my rifle on an old stump and let a bullet fly in the shoulder of the moose and he goes down instantly.I hike up to the bull and find a moose that has a bullet in the gut the back of his ass and above the front leg,as well as the shoulder.I wait and about 25 minutes later these two guys come hiking up ,all excited saying thats our moose thats our moose and that they were shooting a very long distance and that they had made some great shots,I let them know that I finished the bull off and they said right on.
More Long Range Experts no doubt...........:lol:

KodiakHntr
10-13-2007, 08:41 AM
More Long Range Experts no doubt...........:lol:

I doubt that, if they were, it would have only taken one shot...

Will
10-13-2007, 09:30 AM
I doubt that, if they were, it would have only taken one shot...
:lol:

Believe me Folks....I don't have any real issues with this......just Funnin;)

Take the shots and practise enough to know what one's capable of.
We only have to live with ourselves.8)

kgriz
10-13-2007, 10:38 AM
My work partner dropped a wolf last year that was after a big buck in a clearcut; the wolf sat and looked at us and my friend laid down on a deactivation berm with his bipod and took him at 464 yards with his weatherby 30-378 and the wolf dropped in his tracks. My buddies a good shot but that was lucky.( not for the wolf). The distance was accurate within =/- 20 yards as we used a rangefinder and then a GPS to Check.

Marlin375
11-19-2007, 03:15 PM
420 yards cow elk both lungs, 338 Sako Nosler Partions works just fine with 92 gains of IMR 4320



I call Bull**** ........... I've seen you tip over a bull moose at 520 (furthermore you missed his lungs and hit him in the left ventrical :wink:.)

Your getting old and your memory is fading

troutseeker
11-28-2007, 08:22 PM
Mulie deer at 297 meters. Ruger .300 win mag shot in neck, dropped on the spot.

Troutseeker

BIGHUNTERFISH
08-24-2008, 06:38 PM
Right on ""Ultralongranger'' you win .:shock:

Mik
08-24-2008, 07:06 PM
Here's to ressurecting an old thread:razz:

MOWITCH SLAYER
08-24-2008, 07:22 PM
Bull moose standing broadside, paced it off at 416 yards . 300 win mag.
he hunched up took about 6 steps and layed down. I new he was out there but i did not think he was that far. love my 300 , sighted in two inches high at 100 it's deadly

Big Daddy Ryan
08-24-2008, 07:42 PM
Right on ""Ultralongranger'' you win .:shock:

Lol when i saw that this thread had been brought back to the top, i fully expected to see him posting on it haha.

peterrum3
08-25-2008, 07:33 PM
5 Mulie bucks standing on a hillside below me, 2 of the bigger ones battling it out and the other three watching. Took the smaller 2 point standing broadside that was watching the action. Dropped right there at 250 yds. with a 30.06. Watched them for three minutes before taking the shot, it was a nice sight to see.

showoff
08-25-2008, 10:08 PM
deactivated logging road came around the corner and 285 yards (range finder) was standing a 4point white tail . got out of my truck layed prone folded out the bi pod put the cross hair on the side of his head ,squeezed the trigger on my 7mm wsm with my own reloads and took out his brain and he dropped like a rock and no wasted meat

SimilkameenSlayer
09-02-2012, 12:20 PM
275 yards fresh clear cut mule deer. rested the rem 7600 forestock on tree stump to ensure a steady aim on the vitals.

bc sportsman
09-02-2012, 03:03 PM
Estimated minimum 500 yds. Shot from the trees on one side, across a wide gravel bed (Tetsa River) to the other side of the river and up against a sand bank. Bull moose standing there with a cow. Couldn't tell it was a bull till I had the scope up at 9 power. Was a 36" bull and in those days, any bull was ok to take. Shooting 200 gr Nosler partition out of 300 Win Mag (2700 fps estimated). Aimed just over the top of the hump, hit it about 2/3 down the chest cavity. I was sighted in about 2" high at a hundred yards. Assume about a 24" bullet drop on my shot. Took the shot kneeling and up against a tree, hand on the tree, gun against the tree and in my hand. Took my time as the bull wasn't going anywhere with the cow standing there. I had called and they were trying to pin point me and weren't moving. One shot, legs splayed immediately, dropped about 3 - 5 secs later.

The Dude
09-02-2012, 05:04 PM
You bored, SS? This thread's from 2007, and was trouble back then!! :D

mpotzold
01-03-2019, 10:36 PM
immy moose at 545 yrds dropped in his tracks

99 years old today!
Wow

Takla
01-03-2019, 10:45 PM
made a nice steep downhill shot a a mulie buck this yrs,ranged just under 300 yrds,put two into him 2 inchs apart,300 win Mag,have made 350 yrd shots with the weatherby a few times over the yrs all clean kills

takla

walks with deer
01-03-2019, 10:50 PM
i shot a buck at two yards..and 6 yards... and harvested one bear at about 7 yards...
i also shot one bbear with the barrell on the bear before i fired...didnt find him though.

walks with deer
01-03-2019, 10:51 PM
i have shot long...but shooting close has the bragging rights.

Brew
01-04-2019, 06:31 AM
I’m set up for much longer but my longest shot was 370yards on a goat. Dead right there.

.264winmag
01-04-2019, 07:00 AM
803 on a bedded ram, he did get up so got another in the lungs and tumbled 100yds downhill. Both double lung shots 3" apart. Problem with further distances are the environmental's. A spotter is more important than the shooter. In this case the conditions were perfect and corrections were 100% accountable for. Not usually the case out past 500yds in sheep/goat country.
I will add I just started practicing with my first vertical compound bow. Although not very proficient with it yet, I would compare a 50yd bow shot to a 500yd rifle shot. The bow shot doesn't seem to get the same criticism as the rifle shot.

hunter1947
01-04-2019, 07:31 AM
Never had a rangefinder back in the days but my guess was 500 + yards

HarryToolips
01-04-2019, 07:37 AM
250 yards on a fixed 3 zoom rifle...

twoSevenO
01-04-2019, 11:13 AM
4x4 mulie @ 400 yards

with a 95 grain bullet ..... out of a 243Win.

no, i couldn't get any closer.

264mag
01-04-2019, 11:30 AM
20 years ago 500 yards on a coyote, fenceline to fenceline in Sask, no rangefinder but the ranch owner who built the fences confirmed the range
Model 70 264 win mag, Harris bipod 140grain nosler partition, bushnell 4-12. If I recall I held 1.5 coyotes above his back and 1/2 a coyote into the wind.
I wouldnt have shot at a big game animal under those conditions with that old setup but coyotes any day.

ACB
01-04-2019, 11:31 AM
I am probably wrong but I thought it was bow only for elk on the island.
Ya you're right you are wrong.

saskbooknut
01-04-2019, 12:35 PM
Longest distance in 55 years of hunting - 235 stretched paces on a WT deer with a 30-06.
I normally get under 100 yards.

IronNoggin
01-04-2019, 12:44 PM
You bored, SS? This thread's from 2007, and was trouble back then!! :D

One could ask the same question today of mpotzold today... :lol:

Cheers,
Nog

Wild one
01-04-2019, 12:49 PM
One could ask the same question today of mpotzold today... :lol:

Cheers,
Nog

Its winter bear attack reporting is slow this time of year ;-)

835
01-04-2019, 01:06 PM
if you aim 3/4's way up a moose with a 270win 130gr and it drops the bullet 1/4 up it.......... that far

caddisguy
01-04-2019, 01:29 PM
It was either 70 yards or 40 yards depending if the first or second (respectively... it ran my way) round hit it. Only found one hole.

Lets do closest shot on a big game animal. 3 yards ! :)

mpotzold
01-04-2019, 01:37 PM
One could ask the same question today of mpotzold today... :lol:

Cheers,
Nog

Was trying to get some input on one of our members(mntman)turning 99 yesterday! Is he still with us? Where is he?...........8-)

That number is a milestone in one's life-will be a century old in less than a year. :shock:
Chose the best thread to get the attention!;)