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gcreek
11-04-2013, 06:07 PM
(Tyr-an-ny) n. 1. arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority.


Recently a female forest worker in British Columbia was attacked by a pack of wolves. She and one of her two dogs were able to flee into the safety of her truck while the other dog died. Unlike the young schoolteacher on the Alaskan Peninsula and the Saskatchewan young man taking an evening walk that were attacked and killed by wolves in recent years, the lady forest worker was saved by her nearby vehicle. Unlike the nine beagles killed recently by wolves in Michigan or the thousands of dogs of all kinds killed by government introduced and protected wolves in The Lower 48 States in recent years, the ladies’ dog that fled into the truck cab was spared the horrible death of its fellow-pet.
Let us set aside much of the rampant disinformation about wolves. 1. Wolves do really carry and transmit over 30 deadly diseases and infections of great danger to humans, pets, livestock, and other wildlife. 2. Wolves actually kill dogs of all kinds wherever they encounter them. 3. Wolves will kill livestock consistently and often in great numbers, and all the temporary “compensation”, electric fences, “flurry” and other “solutions” not-withstanding: wolves will adjust to defeat them and the constant war between animal husbandry and wolves will increasingly favor wolves unless expensive, intolerable (to others both cost-wise and emotionally) and continuous wolf-killing keeps their numbers very low or assures their protracted absence. 4. Wolves, in fact, reduce and maintain numbers of elk, moose, deer and other game animals to levels insufficient to sustain hunting. 5. Bear spray, “puffing up” and other such nonsense are NO deterrent to wolves that decide, for whatever reason, to attack a human: ask the Idaho schoolteacher chased recently on his bicycle by a wolf on the Alcan Highway about “bear spray”.
Instead, consider the matter of human safety. Despite wolf disinformation to the contrary; there is NO inherent, natural, biological, proven, genetic or other restraint to wolf behavior that precludes or assures a reluctance to investigate, probe, attack, kill or eat humans. Hunting, hiking, camping, and other numerous and consistent rural incidents bear out this fact. Kids wait for school buses in New Mexico for a reason. Wolves are attracted to kids just as they are to deer fawns and moose calves. Wolves frequent rural home-sites routinely and young and old (slow-moving) humans are observed just like moose in a cedar swamp, elk in a river bottom or deer in a snowy winter refuge.
While wolves were never purposely exterminated from British Columbia, they have been consistently controlled, meaning their local presence is reduced due to complaints and the remaining wolves that experience frequent shooting and trapping are, for a while, less likely to expose themselves to humans or human activities. Contrast this with The Lower 48 States where wolves were purposely, with great cost and effort, and with complete government cooperation exterminated with the exceptions of a remnant (controlled locally) presence tolerated in Minnesota and Montana.
What are we to say of a federal government that forcibly re-injects, and protects with severe penalties, wolves into The Lower 48 States (while simultaneously conniving and scheming to undermine the 2nd Amendment and confiscate all guns)? Of State governments that quietly acquiesce and cooperate in spreading lie about “global warming”, “unidentified predators” and the disappearance of livestock and game while ridiculing rural parents and rural elderly concerned about human safety and the deterioration of their outdoors way of life and narrow economic options? Of the citizen blocs they both cater to from multi-Billion (yes, Billion) radical environmental/animal rights’ organizations and uninformed urban/suburban entertainment-seekers to political schemers interested in growing government and interjecting foreign powers and foreign ruling schemes into the USA: all of whom share one thing – they are not harmed by nor do they live with the mayhem they reek on their rural brothers and sisters. Only one of the many contradictions being enacted by government is how they ignore the deaths of thousands of dogs to introduced wolves while posturing with great concern about the “dangers” of using dogs (how Ireland was finally ridded of wolves centuries ago) to hunt and kill wolves.
We need look no further than the very first words used to “establish” our federal government in 1787, the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States. “We the People” formed, and authorized our federal government to “insure domestic Tranquility”, “promote the general Welfare” and “secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity”. This limited and specific charge nowhere contains the tiniest authority or suggestion of using this defined power to do what the federal government has, is and intends to do with wolves, grizzly bears, Indiana bats, snail darters, salmon, etc. to continue destroying American’s property rights while eroding gun rights, religious rights and the 10th Amendment’s States Rights and simultaneously passing PC laws to destroy freedom of speech and The Declaration of Independence claim (that inspired those that fought and died to establish this Nation) “that all men are created equal”.
We can only describe such government actions as the “arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority”. In other words, our government’s actions are examples, both individually and collectively, of the first and primary definition of the dreaded word, TYRANNY.
Your first clue that will make this no longer deniable and will exonerate those like me from dismissal as mere anti-government extremists will be the horrible death of (most likely) a child or some defenseless elderly person or lady by a wolf or wolves. As all the disinformation is blasted everywhere about “never been one before”, “she behaved incorrectly”, “(hunters, campers, children, old folks, etc.) don’t ‘belong’ in wolf country”, and my favorite just used about a wolf attack in a Minnesota campground – “the wolf was sick and had a deformed brain”: ask yourself these 3 questions. 1. Would this have ever happened if government had not forced wolves on rural Americans? 2. Who is responsible for this? 3. How will this be prevented in the future?
When the government answers to these 3 questions are: 1. Don’t be silly. 2. Everyone and no one. 3. By raising your taxes and government debt to hire more government employees and giving more grant money to University “experts” to come up with recommendations and suggestions right after the next election.
It will no longer be deniable that we and our descendants are living under a tyrant employing thousands of assistant tyrants with our money.

Jim Beers
2 November 2013
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Jim Beers is a retired US Fish & Wildlife Service Wildlife Biologist, Special Agent, Refuge Manager, Wetlands Biologist, and Congressional Fellow. He was stationed in North Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York City, and Washington DC. He also served as a US Navy Line Officer in the western Pacific and on Adak, Alaska in the Aleutian Islands. He has worked for the Utah Fish & Game, Minneapolis Police Department, and as a Security Supervisor in Washington, DC. He testified three times before Congress; twice regarding the theft by the US Fish & Wildlife Service of $45 to 60 Million from State fish and wildlife funds and once in opposition to expanding Federal Invasive Species authority. He resides in Eagan, Minnesota with his wife of many decades.

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two-feet
11-04-2013, 06:20 PM
Freedom! Guns! Oh wait I am Canadian.

More people get attacked by moose every year than by wolves

Stone Sheep Steve
11-04-2013, 06:39 PM
More people get attacked by moose every year than by wolves

But we manage moose....or at least try.

SSS

troutseeker
11-04-2013, 06:45 PM
I just tried managing moose without success. I blame the damn wolves in the Clearwater area...

two-feet
11-04-2013, 06:53 PM
I am fully suportive of people shooting wolves and plan on shooting one the next chance i get. I just dont relate it with religion, American charter of rights, keeping America free from foreign influence and protecting our children and elderly. I hope there is plentiful game for my kids to chase in the future, including wolves.

gcreek
11-04-2013, 07:09 PM
I am fully suportive of people shooting wolves and plan on shooting one the next chance i get. I just dont relate it with religion, American charter of rights, keeping America free from foreign influence and protecting our children and elderly. I hope there is plentiful game for my kids to chase in the future, including wolves.

Then open your eyes, take both feet out of your mouth and recognize what our own beaurocrats are doing to us!

two-feet
11-04-2013, 07:38 PM
The last time i got fired up about a wildlife management issue (actually a fisheries issue) i wrote a letter to my MLA. How about you?

Sofa King
11-04-2013, 07:48 PM
this story has gotten way blown out of proportion and exaggerated with every time it's retold.
she wasn't "attacked", she had an encounter.
and the wolves were more likely attracted by her dogs and were after them, not her.

solo
11-04-2013, 08:43 PM
What exactly are our bureaucrats doing to us? You can go shoot wolves almost any time you like. This isn't the lower 48 states. I don't get it.

gcreek
11-04-2013, 09:55 PM
The last time i got fired up about a wildlife management issue (actually a fisheries issue) i wrote a letter to my MLA. How about you?

I actually go and see them personally.

gcreek
11-04-2013, 10:09 PM
What exactly are our bureaucrats doing to us? You can go shoot wolves almost any time you like. This isn't the lower 48 states. I don't get it.

Your bureaucrats are managing your ungulates to death with repetitive studies. You folks that live in your little world of ticky tacky boxes don't see it because you don't want to.
I am not trying to be derogatory with that statement but that is how it looks from here. Who cares what country? It is parallel to what is happening here.

If I could shoot wolves any time I like there wouldn't be many left in this area. That's what you guys don't get.

The MOE needs to carry out a serious wolf reduction in this province. Most of the bios could care less if you can find a moose for your freezer or if I lose $15,000 worth of livestock per year.

THEY STILL GET PAID REGARDLESS!!!!!


Tooley, you are beyond repair......

blackbart
11-04-2013, 11:07 PM
gcreek - Firstly I share your concern with the current pedator levels, they are way above any level that I have seen previously. I do hope that we see more ungulates on the landbase in the near future.

I do however find it funny and somewhat hypocritical that you are blaming everyone but yourself and your fellow ranchers in this scenario. Domestic livestock compete with wildlife for food. Domestic livestock provide an artificially high bio-mass for predators to utilize during all seasons. Domestic livestock don't go through the natural ups and downs as ungulates with bad winters. Some ranchers in the Chilcotin left some domestic livestock out all winter when BSE struck eight or ten years ago. Anyone else notice the correlation between the wolf explosion and the marked decrease in beef prices that came with BSE???

Not saying that gcreek practiced any of this behaviour, but did notice many cattle out on the crown land ranges all winter during the BSE period.

We should all write letters to gcreeks favorite government officials complaining if we see cattle on crown range after October.

gcreek
11-05-2013, 06:14 AM
gcreek - Firstly I share your concern with the current pedator levels, they are way above any level that I have seen previously. I do hope that we see more ungulates on the landbase in the near future.

I do however find it funny and somewhat hypocritical that you are blaming everyone but yourself and your fellow ranchers in this scenario. Domestic livestock compete with wildlife for food. Domestic livestock provide an artificially high bio-mass for predators to utilize during all seasons. Domestic livestock don't go through the natural ups and downs as ungulates with bad winters. Some ranchers in the Chilcotin left some domestic livestock out all winter when BSE struck eight or ten years ago. Anyone else notice the correlation between the wolf explosion and the marked decrease in beef prices that came with BSE???

Not saying that gcreek practiced any of this behaviour, but did notice many cattle out on the crown land ranges all winter during the BSE period.

We should all write letters to gcreeks favorite government officials complaining if we see cattle on crown range after October.

By all means, I think you should inform someone of authority if you see cattle out all winter.

I do blame the BCCA for their apathy and limp wristed policy when dealing with government on the predator issue. We had a program that was working and instead of slowly adding to it, the program came to a halt in a few short years.

I do find it hypocritical that resident hunters blame everyone but themselves for the major reduction of ungulates in many areas. Whether you shot them off yourselves or let them be killed off by a booming wolf and bear population you think you can help manage by camping in the big woods for a week, you are still responsible for their demise.

I also find it disheartening that many of you are so naive to think that we who live on the land should not progress as urban centers have. So many on this site think I am against hunters and hunting, you couldn't be farther wrong. My cows are going to stay, I would like to see the moose, cariboo and deer stay also. We do need some wolves and bear around also. Just not in the numbers they currently are.

What have you done with your concerns about the predator issue? Have you any?

gcreek
11-05-2013, 06:36 AM
Potzy, you believe that string of bullshit and I've got a bridge to sell!

It is folks like you that are the problem, pretty hard to see what is going on around you if you only believe those who agree with your personal viewpoint.

Just to satisfy your curiosity, here are a couple verification photos we used to kill this last pack of wolves.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/gcreekrch/D2TMMDC1/My%20Pictures/wolf%20verification/PA160083_zpsbeb1d978.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/gcreekrch/media/D2TMMDC1/My%20Pictures/wolf%20verification/PA160083_zpsbeb1d978.jpg.html)

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/gcreekrch/D2TMMDC1/My%20Pictures/wolf%20verification/PA160082_zps384c2cfd.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/gcreekrch/media/D2TMMDC1/My%20Pictures/wolf%20verification/PA160082_zps384c2cfd.jpg.html)

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/gcreekrch/D2TMMDC1/My%20Pictures/wolf%20verification/PA160079_zpsd63f8556.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/gcreekrch/media/D2TMMDC1/My%20Pictures/wolf%20verification/PA160079_zpsd63f8556.jpg.html)

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/gcreekrch/D2TMMDC1/My%20Pictures/wolf%20verification/PA160078_zps537c76bb.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/gcreekrch/media/D2TMMDC1/My%20Pictures/wolf%20verification/PA160078_zps537c76bb.jpg.html)

The collared male Dan caught.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/gcreekrch/D2TMMDC1/My%20Pictures/wolf/PA200091_zpse434c672.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/gcreekrch/media/D2TMMDC1/My%20Pictures/wolf/PA200091_zpse434c672.jpg.html)

Rackem
11-05-2013, 07:33 AM
The American religious rhetoric just makes me bristle, but I agree that we need to reduce the wolf pops. What steps should be taken? Who do we write or visit?

What actions will be effective?

gcreek
11-05-2013, 07:50 AM
The American religious rhetoric just makes me bristle, but I agree that we need to reduce the wolf pops. What steps should be taken? Who do we write or visit?

What actions will be effective?

I believe that taking the time to book an appointment for a one on one visit with your local MLA does the most good to voice your concerns about any matter. Writing letters is good but it is also my belief that most letters are read by staff and discarded before reaching the intended addressee. I believe this is especially true if staff members disagree with letter content.

You get it Rackem, the intent of the original post was to show govt. will do as they want as long as WE let them. Let the rest slide.

Rackem
11-05-2013, 08:25 AM
So for our area, Mike Bernier is the MLA, I wrote a brief letter to him, and I am going to try to make an appointment with him personally.

Here is his website:http://mikeberniermla.ca/contact/





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Looking_4_Jerky
11-05-2013, 09:10 AM
Holy crap. Author is a retired biologist? America is lucky to have him out of service. What a bunch of righteous, self-entitled, US-centric, conspiracy theory garbage.


No biologist would argue that wolves have no place in their native ecological range. Some biologists, as with most hunters, struggle with how to allow wolves a fraction of their historical tenure, while not impacting our interests to an appreciable degree, in ecological systems heavily manipulated by humans to suit our agenda. The US is a classic example. They eradicate wolves, establish themselves on the land, irrepairably alter their environment, establish themselves as the primary predator of ungulates, re-introduce wolves, and then struggle to reconcile the desire for more natural ecological systems, while managing the wolf-related impacts to livestock, pets, ungulate herds, and to humans in general.


I don't personally like the fact that I am in direct competition with wolves for the meat I eat. Although the concept of predator hunting has never rubbed me particularly well, I recognize that without it my plight for meat would be more difficult, and I like it to be as easy as possible. I recognize that having relatively intact ecological systems means wolves need to be around, and that means continued and often difficult management of wolves and everything they interact with. Wildlife biology isn't as easy as getting in a chopper and counting moose and elk. The most difficult thing wildlife managers contend with is how to do their job and piss off as few people as possible, because ultimately they work for the people. The people, however, are not all ranchers and hunters.