Interesting observations ratherbefishin. Are you observing this activity in Region 2?
Interesting observations ratherbefishin. Are you observing this activity in Region 2?
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It’s math every year.
subtract gestation time from when you see the first fawns, then you know when that doe was bred.
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Stopped worrying about the date of the rut years ago when I realized the changes it has on buck activity run for a lot longer time then most think. Yes there is times a higher % of bucks that get caught up in rut activity.
I just worry about when rut tactics like calling become effective, when bucks are more likely to be cruzing and when they start acknowleging does more. As hunters we are trying to exploit the effects it has on bucks not get lucky with a doe so our timing can be off lol
From Oct 20 to Dec 10 all species of deer in BC will increase movement, acknowledge does more, and respond to calling to some level. For all species of deer in both BC and Alberta at some point in November is when I find things get the hottest and it varies a little timing wise for each location by about 2 weeks at best in my opinion. It also seems to vary a little each year
If your just trying to exploit increased movement and interest in does the time frame I gave you will experience it at different levels of intensity
For the purpose of calling thing vary more.
Late Oct it’s some what effective with light rattling and doe bleats they are just sparing
After the first week of November crash & bash rattling, grunts and doe bleats
Come December doe bleats because some bucks are getting worn out and less willing to battle but will still chase tail
Bucks only get lucky for part of the year so the effects of the rut on them drag out longer and vary. In areas with higher buck vs doe ratio things are more intense, competitive, and longer because of the number of sexually frustrated bucks vs does. In areas with lower buck vs doe ratio you won’t get near as much activity because of lack of competition becomes a lazy event in comparison
In my opinion exact timing is not that important compared to many other factors. It also varies just enough each year and location you will never get it perfect
In Sooke halloween is usually a good start . I have seen smaller bucks chasing does a little earlier . Peak is mid November . About a week later or so higher up . That is what I have observed for years on the deer around my place .
Haven't seen any activity yet
Killed all my region 2-8 blacktails between nov 6-12th nov.80% of the kills the bucks came into my rattleing.Before and after the dates mentioned sightings were few
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Exactly.
Just like another member said :
haven't some of you all noticed how different in size some fawns are?, even though the are all dropped in the same year.
They are dropped at different times.
Christ, I have seen some does with fawns that look like they were born only 2 months ago, and I'm talking about being out there in November!!
Meanwhile, other does have fawns that are nearly just as big as them.
Makes you wonder just how late some does get bred!
Also, is that maybe room for some concern????
Are bucks getting it done when they should??
Are we lacking a few in some areas??
And without going down the rabbit hole!, is it some other factor, and not a buck issue?
I wonder if some of the recent studies that are underway will look at that as well.
We need to start looking under every rock/stone, to get this all fixed.
Bugle M In I have brought up my concern of buck vs doe ratios in parts of BC having an impact on fawn birth timing and survival in the past
There is even a study on Wt in the states that showed positive long term results from higher buck % resulting in higher rate of fawn survival and an increase in adult weight in the overall population after a number of years
About 10-12 years ago I started noticing spotted fawns later into the year in many areas. Did not see this in some of the micro populations I hunt that held higher % of bucks
At this time BC hunters are too concerned about days in the field and have been told male harvest has no impact for many years.
But not to highjack this thread let’s keep to rut talk