Moose region 6

[Caribou_lou]

Im concerned about us losing hunts with NO reason behind losing them. The Bow hunt is a great example, They have no idea how many are harvested with a Bow. But they love to speculate! Throwing numbers out there like upwards of 20. It was suggested years ago , that on hunter surveys, they add a box that you can check off if it was a bow harvest. But ministry said that wasn't possible. It was also suggested that Crossbows not be allowed in the Rut Bow hunt. Ministry also claimed that wasn't possible.

[Wild one]

Im concerned about us losing hunts with NO reason behind losing them. The Bow hunt is a great example, They have no idea how many are harvested with a Bow. But they love to speculate! Throwing numbers out there like upwards of 20. It was suggested years ago , that on hunter surveys, they add a box that you can check off if it was a bow harvest. But ministry said that wasn't possible. It was also suggested that Crossbows not be allowed in the Rut Bow hunt. Ministry also claimed that wasn't possible.

BC needs to start properly counting archer numbers and archery kills. At this time BC is way behind most of North America with using archery seasons as an option beyond LEH to create opportunity.

[40incher]

BC needs to start properly counting archer numbers andarchery kills. At this time BC is way behind most of North America with usingarchery seasons as an option beyond LEH to create opportunity.

Absolutely ... problem is the bureaucrats don't want good info on archery harvest, they just want to play the "sky-is-falling" game and fear-monger.

Skeena Region (Region 6), specifically South Skeena, has the most inclusive and innovative moose regulations in the province. They were designed by resident hunters and local guides through the Skeena Hunter's Advisory Committee (SHAC)process. This process has more than 20 years of success in bringing constructive hunting regulations forward. That really pisses the bureaucrats off!

Our GOS, our bow hunts, our three LEH moose hunts are all as a result of the SHAC process.

Presently, the MFLNRO bureaucrats are attempting to create a crisis where none exists. They claim resident hunters are exceeding the AAH in the moose GOS ... not true. They are exaggerating the impact of the October bowhunt, while doing nothing to gain accurate data in that regard via the harvest questionnaire. They have removed 300 bulls from the AAH by shifting them to the "unlicensed" hunters, who have no intention of taking bull moose specifically ... and never will.

They plan on cancelling our GOS and October bow hunt based on their agenda alone. They also plan on using these draconian measures in South Skeena to put all of North Skeena on tine restrictions because of the"influx" of displaced hunters they plan to create by their actions.

This is all by design.

South Skeena is one population unit for moose. M.U.'s 6-04, 6-05, 6-06,6-08 and 6-09 are only separated by the artificial boundaries created by the bureaucrats. The moose population in South Skeena moves back and forth as they please ... as do the predators. One serious problem we have in Skeena is that the government-assigned "experts don't understand the fundamentals of moose biology or dynamics! Sad, but true.

Resident hunters have requested clear and defensible data that suggests the moose population in South Skeena is any different than from the last inventoryof 12,500 moose. There is none forthcoming ... just vague innuendo and the incessant stirring up of their "chicken little" approach.

[HarryToolips]

^^^so can we as resident Hunter's demand that they put region 6 moose under compulsory inspection first?..then the MOE will know exactly what our harvest is then to see if we're exceeding our AAH..

[Caribou_lou]

^^^so can we as resident Hunter's demand that they put region 6 moose under compulsory inspection first?..then the MOE will know exactly what our harvest is then to see if we're exceeding our AAH..

I'm not sure we need compulsory inspection. We are doing LEH and licences online. Why not report moose harvest online also? I believe yukon residents must report every harvest. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Piperdown]

Absolutely ... problem is the bureaucrats don't want good info on archery harvest, they just want to play the "sky-is-falling" game and fear-monger.

Skeena Region (Region 6), specifically South Skeena, has the most inclusive and innovative moose regulations in the province. They were designed by resident hunters and local guides through the Skeena Hunter's Advisory Committee (SHAC)process. This process has more than 20 years of success in bringing constructive hunting regulations forward. That really pisses the bureaucrats off!

Our GOS, our bow hunts, our three LEH moose hunts are all as a result of the SHAC process.

Presently, the MFLNRO bureaucrats are attempting to create a crisis where none exists. They claim resident hunters are exceeding the AAH in the moose GOS ... not true. They are exaggerating the impact of the October bowhunt, while doing nothing to gain accurate data in that regard via the harvest questionnaire. They have removed 300 bulls from the AAH by shifting them to the "unlicensed" hunters, who have no intention of taking bull moose specifically ... and never will.

They plan on cancelling our GOS and October bow hunt based on their agenda alone. They also plan on using these draconian measures in South Skeena to put all of North Skeena on tine restrictions because of the"influx" of displaced hunters they plan to create by their actions.

This is all by design.

South Skeena is one population unit for moose. M.U.'s 6-04, 6-05, 6-06,6-08 and 6-09 are only separated by the artificial boundaries created by the bureaucrats. The moose population in South Skeena moves back and forth as they please ... as do the predators. One serious problem we have in Skeena is that the government-assigned "experts don't understand the fundamentals of moose biology or dynamics! Sad, but true.

Resident hunters have requested clear and defensible data that suggests the moose population in South Skeena is any different than from the last inventoryof 12,500 moose. There is none forthcoming ... just vague innuendo and the incessant stirring up of their "chicken little" approach.

Well when bow hunting in 6-04 for a few years now have seen maybe a couple of other bow hunters, did see the natives shoot a bunch of cows no bulls ( talked to the CO up there about a month ago, natives shot 7 cows in 1 day does not make any sense to me and all's he could do was shake his head). Would like to know where any solid data on guides quota being reduced or not can be found. Last season was up at the cabin for a month, last few days of September and all of October. We saw 12 different bulls, 4 within bow range (1 as close as 30 ft) but no ethical shots. During the gos did not see a bull but then again there were so many hunters going mach 4 on every rd the moose were pushed deep into the timber and the rut was a good one as the early weather was fairly cold so i think the bulls were laying low. On a side note, was the first time in 15 years hunting there that we did not get a moose.

[boxhitch]

Would like to know where any solid data on guides quota being reduced or not can be found.

It all comes out at the meetings

RH lose 1450, NRH lose 512,
485 are moved into the fn hunters side of the AAH

RH lose 14 sheep , NRH lose ~one

[sthdslayer]

Are those numbers region 6 only.

[HarryToolips]

I'm not sure we need compulsory inspection. We are doing LEH and licences online. Why not report moose harvest online also? I believe yukon residents must report every harvest. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Right but I mean if they kept the GOS, rather than just using LEH to manage hunters, at least if we had compulsory inspection then they would know, rather than just speculation..

[Caribou_lou]

Right but I mean if they kept the GOS, rather than just using LEH to manage hunters, at least if we had compulsory inspection then they would know, rather than just speculation..

Even if they keep GOS make it mandatory to report a harvest online or by phone within 10 days of kill date. Then you have numbers at least.