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Thread: GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

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    Re: GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltbullken View Post
    Or the lambs succumb to Ovi. There is a high prevalence of Ovi in many herds and the south Ok/Boundary has an issue with mites and now blue tongue! Can't assume it's only predators.
    Movi is a huge issue in region 3 the wild sheep society has put a lot of money and effort into combatting it and could use more funding.
    BC Wild sheep society
    BC BCHA
    BC wildlife federation
    RMGA

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    Re: GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunting guy View Post
    That would increase the chance’s of younger, healthier prime breeding age rams being harvested rather than past prime rams getting harvested. Say No to LEH sheep hunting. If poaching is an issue during GOS it will be during an LEH opening also.
    Many of the older rams are broomed back and will never be legal so this would give a chance at them to be now harvested, and also make the short sheep being taken now legal.
    Say yes to LEH if it is set up right.

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    Re: GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

    Good on the BHA bc chapter for stepping up and taking a position on the region 4 sheep.

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    Re: GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

    Quote Originally Posted by Darksith View Post
    Thats interesting. I wonder how they know since there were no counts done this year...I saw probably close to 10 3/4 curl rams this year in the few days I spent in region 3. The GOS doesn't kill a lot of animals bc they broom off before they reach mature or full curl with the exception of a few 6 ear olds with lamb tips that would get broomed the next year. This doesn't sound like fact or science based anything but merely rumour. The LEH would probably allow for more sheep to be harvested bc its going to be 3/4 curl, but would reduce the opportunity for someone to get lucky and find a needle in a hay stack.

    There are changes coming for region 4, the WSSBC has issued a statement recently. Lets not start rumours unless you got something to back it up.

    Ask the biologist himself.

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    Re: GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

    Quote Originally Posted by LBM View Post
    Many of the older rams are broomed back and will never be legal so this would give a chance at them to be now harvested, and also make the short sheep being taken now legal.
    Say yes to LEH if it is set up right.
    check the odds of getting a bull river tag once it went to LEH. Once in a lifetime to hunt it now.

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    Re: GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunting guy View Post
    check the odds of getting a bull river tag once it went to LEH. Once in a lifetime to hunt it now.
    should check some of the other odds those arent that bad, but if a person draws it and takes a ram it should be once in a life time.

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    Re: GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

    Quote Originally Posted by LBM View Post
    should check some of the other odds those arent that bad, but if a person draws it and takes a ram it should be once in a life time.
    Must be Lloyd Christmas… 178:1 draw odds within 5 years of being GOS hunting for full curl rams is ok!? If your biggest concern is how many sheep a hunter has personally harvested in a lifetime your letting your emotions take over from science to make regulations that certainly are not helping sheep hunters by advocating for regulations that end sheep hunting for 99.5% of hunters each season. We are our own worst enemies but some hunters sleep better knowing fewer hunters are sheep hunting!

    Almost every bighorn draw is now a once in a lifetime draw hunt. It’s too bad we keep asking for regulations that take away our opportunity to HUNT sheep, and other species. To often those who are pushing for regulations limiting harvest of post prime breeding age class animals are more caught up with hunting as a competition. Limiting hunter involvement is bad for our future hunting.

    Assuming the average sheep hunter gets 30 years of ability to hunt sheep in their life…. How many sheep hunters plan to continue or start donating time and money to sheep conservation when you stand a once in 5 lifetime chance of hunting a wild sheep? Sounds more like anti hunting to me.

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    Re: GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

    Hunting guy hit the nail on the head 5 times. Theres no need for leh and bighorns. Bull river never should have went to leh considering they had a ewe draw a couple years prior. The only people that benefit is outfitters. The sheep wont, residents wont... q

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    Re: GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunting guy View Post
    Must be Lloyd Christmas… 178:1 draw odds within 5 years of being GOS hunting for full curl rams is ok!? If your biggest concern is how many sheep a hunter has personally harvested in a lifetime your letting your emotions take over from science to make regulations that certainly are not helping sheep hunters by advocating for regulations that end sheep hunting for 99.5% of hunters each season. We are our own worst enemies but some hunters sleep better knowing fewer hunters are sheep hunting!

    Almost every bighorn draw is now a once in a lifetime draw hunt. It’s too bad we keep asking for regulations that take away our opportunity to HUNT sheep, and other species. To often those who are pushing for regulations limiting harvest of post prime breeding age class animals are more caught up with hunting as a competition. Limiting hunter involvement is bad for our future hunting.

    Assuming the average sheep hunter gets 30 years of ability to hunt sheep in their life…. How many sheep hunters plan to continue or start donating time and money to sheep conservation when you stand a once in 5 lifetime chance of hunting a wild sheep? Sounds more like anti hunting to me.
    Sounds like someone may be more concerned about killing then hunting or conservation. Was it not science so to speak that changed the bull river to LEH.
    Average sheep hunter only gets 30 yrs of ability to hunt, well passed that by over 10 all ready and will continue. Will continue to help others with info
    and spotting as well dont have to be the shooter but will still hunt. Take a look at the kamloops thread, how that LEH tag holder mentions all the help from
    others that were not there to be the shooter but still went hunting. Although its from the states the summer issue of wild sheep has a good story of
    some people and the amount they do for sheep even though they have never shot or hunted them, infact there is thousands of people there that do things for
    sheep and wildlife conservation just because they like the wildlife.
    One possible change they could make to the LEH would be if it say cost $250 or $500 to enter and you got your money back except for price of tag if you didnt draw.
    That would possible drop your odds way down for many wouldnt apply just because.

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    Re: GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

    Congratulations on your good health, hopefully it continues for you. Unfortunately for many out there with degen disks / knees / shoulders 30 years is being optimistic. If you can find the rational for rule changes that circulated prior to the Bull river going to LEH you will see emotion over science, I looked online but can’t find it so I won’t quote it but parts of it was pathetic.

    $250-$500 hardly buys the boots never mind optics / rifle / lightweight everything / kuiu or Sitka that everyone seems to wear now. Not sure that adding what is essentially a sheep hunters tax is going to do for sheep hunting opportunities?
    There are many anti hunting groups that also advertise enhancements to wildlife and conservation where nobody kills anything. I guess they are just more honest about their intentions. Too bad they seem to be winning over long time hunters without them even realizing it.

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