I was just using them as an example. Not necessarily hunting gear. Just companies that used to make good stuff at one point, now their quality is junk. Kuiu used to be manufactured by Arc’tyrex in Vancouver when they first started out, as soon as they sent their manufacturing overseas, quality went way down hill. I had stuff that was made in Canada, bought new stuff a few years later, was nowhere near the same quality. Sold it, went to Kryptek, used it for years, good stuff. Until I tried SG. Will keep running there stuff and hope it doesn’t go downhill.