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Thread: Reason for low ungulate populations

  1. #81
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    Re: Reason for low ungulate populations

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkdog View Post
    hunters harvest animals in their prime for the most part, whereas predators largely take down the old and sick - as well as young.
    Hunters also have a serious advantage with optics and the ability to reach out to a 1000m make a kill, not many other predators out there have that range.
    if you were to add up hunting, road kill, train kill, and habitat destruction I would think humans win hands down.
    I agree with the road kill etc and the biggest being habitat destruction, but key word being hunters...and sure optics etc are great, but the majority of kills according to what I've read, are still within 100 yards...

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    Re: Reason for low ungulate populations

    Great pics. Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: Reason for low ungulate populations

    Great photos Doug...sitting there patiently with your Kodak camera..or maybe kodiac"..lol
    Really missed being out there this year...and yes folks there really are that many predators out there..no wonder the unglazed are struggling.
    Thanks Doug
    Steven

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    Re: Reason for low ungulate populations

    This pic is epic and also my desktop background...thanks Chilcotin Hillybilly

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    Re: Reason for low ungulate populations

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkdog View Post
    hunters harvest animals in their prime for the most part, whereas predators largely take down the old and sick - as well as young.
    Hunters also have a serious advantage with optics and the ability to reach out to a 1000m make a kill, not many other predators out there have that range.
    if you were to add up hunting, road kill, train kill, and habitat destruction I would think humans win hands down.
    Predators take down what ever they can, taking down the old and sick is an urban myth. Predators have to eat 365 days per year, and they harvest wastefully and totally unregulated all year round for as long as they breathe...humans can't compete with them for efficiency of killing game animals.

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    Re: Reason for low ungulate populations

    Just stumbled on this thread. Epic pictures Chilcotin Hillbilly. Hoping to avoid that G Bear on my moose trip up there this year, he looks way to political! haha

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    Re: Reason for low ungulate populations

    ^^^^ Yeah! Just saw the bump. They are great pics, especially the bear. Cougar's a close second.
    Rob Chipman
    "The idea of wilderness needs no defense, it only needs defenders" - Ed Abbey
    "Grown men do not need leaders" - also Ed Abbey

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    Re: Reason for low ungulate populations

    The brown g bear hugging the tree..
    Look at the muscle crease on the face..
    The small ears set on the side
    The nose is short.
    The nose is big coffee can round
    The arms are not tapered. .elbow above, below..stovepipe..
    No wrist leg comes straight out side of paws..no taper, no wrist..
    The color of the bigger bears..older bears does tend to get darker
    Coat like a worn out fur jacket. .
    Ruppinsky belly..
    Only item not shown is width of skull..
    Srupp

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    Re: Reason for low ungulate populations

    The brown g bear hugging the tree..
    Look at the muscle crease on the face..
    The small ears set on the side
    The nose is short.
    The nose is big coffee can round
    The arms are not tapered. .elbow above, below..stovepipe..
    No wrist leg comes straight out side of paws..no taper, no wrist..
    The color of the bigger bears..older bears does tend to get darker
    Coat like a worn out fur jacket. .
    Ruppinsky belly..
    Only item not shown is width of skull..
    Notice the presence of a neck...male
    Srupp

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    Re: Reason for low ungulate populations

    Cougar meat is excellent , tastes between chicken and pork use to hunt them with my dogs on the north end of the island.

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