I have talked to quite a few guys off the site that like you are a whole lot more knowledgable than me. They have given me valuable info and I'll do my best to put it in practice. I have read many times over and over if you want a bird dog you gotta have birds and up here they are at a premium. I have thought seriously about getting a coop and keeping some pigeons to work with. I used to raise homing pigeons and actually like them a lot. You were talking about not having support down there, just in case you didn't know, I have been PMing back and forth with a guy down there in Pitt Meadows, he has a DD, his name is BUCK on here and his real name is DAN. He seems to know quite a bit and has taken his dog through some of the testings, also, there is another guy wanting to test for VJP in 2012 with his pup bought from Lee Root out of Omak Wash ,and he lives in Surrey, so if your interested??? I don't know his ph#, but, If you want it i would scoop it for you.