The New Allocation Policy is out

[tuner]

Get a dashcam or a go-pro, have it on hand when you're in '' his area '' if he acts up, record it,and provide it to both the CO and the RCMP.

[40incher]

We use to be able to hunt moose untill nov 15 in Atlin, but no more. Death by a 1000 cuts for region 6 gos moose. The locals need moose meat far more than the GOs who no loger live in Atlin.

The Ministry is about to start a major moose count in northern areas of region 6. I suspect an agenda is in the works.We still have good healthy moose ratios and numbers btw.

Our Skeena Hunter's Advisory Committee has been clear to the MFLNRO for many years that we want "independent" NGO observers on our Region 6 moose counts. For the northern counts they would be very wise to get local Atlin people involved. That would allow for at least a bit of transparency, especially when obvious distrust exists ... By "independent" we do not mean retired Ministry bureaucrats who have been able to join local NGO organizations and used as a buffer to their agenda. This happened on our latest South Skeena counts where these retirees participated as paid contractors and were described as independent Club members by the Ministry when questioned. Sad but true! What's the big secret??

I have personally witnessed how the "powers that be" have taken away resident hunting opportunities for caribou, sheep and moose in the Atlin area. Anti-use groups from the U.S have aligned with the FN's and thrown money at them to create an issue where none exists ... and government falls all over itself to go along.

Your suspicion of an "agenda" is likely well founded.

The bureaucrats would be wise to include real locals who are not part of said agenda ... if they truly want the counts to have any credibility in the Atlin community and beyond.

[boxhitch]

Or maybe hire Round River again

http://www.roundriver.info/

[Gamebuster]

Our Skeena Hunter's Advisory Committee has been clear to the MFLNRO for many years that we want "independent" NGO observers on our Region 6 moose counts. For the northern counts they would be very wise to get local Atlin people involved. That would allow for at least a bit of transparency, especially when obvious distrust exists ... By "independent" we do not mean retired Ministry bureaucrats who have been able to join local NGO organizations and used as a buffer to their agenda. This happened on our latest South Skeena counts where these retirees participated as paid contractors and were described as independent Club members by the Ministry when questioned. Sad but true! What's the big secret??

I have personally witnessed how the "powers that be" have taken away resident hunting opportunities for caribou, sheep and moose in the Atlin area. Anti-use groups from the U.S have aligned with the FN's and thrown money at them to create an issue where none exists ... and government falls all over itself to go along.

Your suspicion of an "agenda" is likely well founded.

The bureaucrats would be wise to include real locals who are not part of said agenda ... if they truly want the counts to have any credibility in the Atlin community and beyond.

why would biologists in skeeena have an agenda to reduce hunter opportunity for resident hunters? Doesn't make much sense

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Some biologists and regional managers have been under th thumb of the 'industry' for many years. I'm not going to speculate 'why' but it has and still does happen.

[Trigger95]

still seeing 40%, so not a whole lot of progress IMO, we got their attention, now to show we aren't messing around

[one-shot-wonder]

Absolutely....not just in the north, happens in other regions too.

I am confident that with the resident beast being awakened in all of this, things will be different in some cases moving forward.

[Gamebuster]

Some biologists and regional managers have been under th thumb of the 'industry' for many years. I'm not going to speculate 'why' but it has and still does happen.

To the point that independent observers are required during moose counts?

[Stone Sheep Steve]

To the point that independent observers are required during moose counts?

Sure. Over inflated sheep counts happened in the east koots for sheep. Falsely inflating the population results in increased quotas.

It can happen anywhere.

[Gamebuster]

Sure. Over inflated sheep counts happened in the east koots for sheep. Falsely inflating the population results in increased quotas.

It can happen anywhere.

Guess I always figured the shady deals occurred above the biologist level