Ok lets head this off at the pass there are enuff posts that go to sh*t slinging without adding to it. I'm going to make a few observations and comments instead it is not my intent to "attack" you at this point. #1.. I agree with what 835 said good advice listen to him if you are worried about it. #2.. As for "non' bird dog types I spent many years working the cattle ranges with heeler, shephard, collie type dogs (round up is usually dead in the middle of prime hunting time) that would actually apear to be harasing stock in their work and never had a problem with them either. ut better safe than sorry. #3..YOU didn't stir up strong feelings (although they are deffinately there) you asked a legit. question and got some answers from people who know a little about what they are talking about but as you will see there are always some who SEEM to want to stir up sh*t or simply dont think before thy post( attack a mans devotion for his dog(s) {and I am not talking about our post} and expect a strong response). Very interesting concept in bird hunting I thought I'd seen it all. Thanks for the "education"