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Mandela
My ethics involve shooting a game animal in the lower chest, frontal shot, or behind the shoulder, broadside shot...not shooting an animal that's running directly away from you in the butt. I passed up such a shot just this past season on a 5 pt. whitetail. You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything...
B.C., PRE-NDP, formerly the best place to play! Cogito, ergo armatus sum!
You forgot about the 3rd school of thought Goat. Never ever shoot at an animal, because it doesn't present itself exactly like the target at the range did, or the picture in the magazine with the target overlay on it, and because the bullet might not hit exactly where you intend....
And, since you made the limiting insinuation in your "schools of thought" let me add another, which I think David Heitsman was probably getting at.
Use a bullet / cartridge adequate to do the job under ideal conditions and shot opportunities, AND also one which will allow a little room for error in times where "shit just doesn't work out exactly as planned".....
"Walk softly and carry a big stick" AND swing it well.... Not possible you say?
I carry a .340 Wby Mag for moose, bear, bison etc..... I could use my trusty old .30-06, my .308 or even my .257 Wby to do the job, but for a few reasons I almost always grab the .340.
Because some folks refer to it as a "cannon" does that mean that I am a poor shot with it? Does that mean that I am not a very good marksman and that is why I carry "a cannon"??? So that I can shoot poorly????
What do you carry for moose, bear etc???
Maybe, if you have time, bring it down to the WSSOBC with you and we'll see if we can sneak off to PAW325's private range and try a few shots.
I'll bet you, you won't "out shoot" my cannon.......
Last edited by Whisky Creek; 03-06-2011 at 02:26 PM.
Here's to the land of diamond hitches, packers and cooks, the Ol' Son$ofbitche$.......... Skook Davidson
Deer, everyone that I have shot with the 338 bangflopped like hit with a big stick...the bull elk I shot last fall got knocked on his arse got up and ran 100 feet and expired...
I agree shot placement is important, but from my experience you hit a deer with 225gr out of a 338wm and they don't go far.
Agreed, but I don't read David Heitsman saying the deer was running away, or that he shot it in the butt.
I think he said, "starting to move away" and that the bullet "just touched the rear ham".
As a measurer for B&C I've seen a surprising amount of ram horns with bullet holes in them. Do you think that the hunter meant to shoot them in the horns, or do you think that maybe once in a while the bullet doesn't always strike where it was intended, regardless of the animal position and shot presented to the shooter?
Last edited by Whisky Creek; 03-06-2011 at 02:27 PM.
Here's to the land of diamond hitches, packers and cooks, the Ol' Son$ofbitche$.......... Skook Davidson
I usually pack a 338 as my go to gun although I don't shoot at much. If a person feels undergunned with a .243 on deer they should be shooting a t-Rex if they're going grizz hunting.
Guys shoot animals in the horns and antlers because that is usually where they're looking when they're shooting. Very common for the folks that get wrapped up in the moment.
Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world.
Mandela
"I've seen grown men pick at food. They can't be hungry in the first place. Or maybe their food has been too fancy and with all the choices they've had, they don't really know what they enjoy anymore." - Dick Proenneke