Alex Mota (sp?)---Kluchesi---

[Walking Buffalo]

Interesting read... 30 year hunting ban, effective 1992 or so...
http://www.eab.gov.bc.ca/wildlife/91-24.HTM
http://www.eab.gov.bc.ca/wildlife/91_24.pdf

Interesting reading here too....Mr Loring took a run at Mr Mota's title.
http://www.eab.gov.bc.ca/wildlife/2005wil008a.pdf

Apparently Mr Mota is quite well known in the Yukon, and was known to "indiscriminately gun down eagles, sheep and goats within the course of a few hours".
http://www.yukon-news.com/news/12181

I can't find the actual case from Alberta yet, but he was convicted there too...
"In R. v. Mota (1991), 117 A.R. 42, 2 W.A.C. 42 (concerning a repeat
market and trophy poacher fined $10,000 or six months imprisonment), the Alberta
Court of Appeal commented that the Act's new penalties are "moderate", Mr.
Mota's sentence was "fit and appropriate" (and suggested civil actions to enjoin
him from future use or possession of firearms), and "wildlife must be accorded the
priority of a treasured national heritage - which it is". The Court at page 44 also
urged Parliament to consider "increasing the penalties, both maximum and
minimum, for repeat offences of this kind that occur in our National Parks"."

I'll look for the Alberta case. Here is the Appeal, which was dismissed.

R. V Mota

http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abca/doc...91abca188.html

[snowhunter]

My understanding is that Alex, being a Portuguese, fought in Portugal's colonial war in Angola, southern Africa for several years, and not i Vietnam.

The kind of money that can be made by legal and illegal means are high for anyone willing to cater to hunters in an area like Kluachesi and the surrounding ares of Gatho, and lots of politics from legal guide,outfitters and law enforcements goes into it as well, including undercover "hunters", who are very easy to spot, because they smell of coffee and doughnuts.

Martin, after everybody paid for the hunt, went bankrupt, has disappeared, but Alex has a strong following of B.C. hunters who use his and his horses services for bringing downed game, back to the camp.

[behemoth]

Very interesting, I shall have to look into this as I would not knowingly deal with anyone who would support Mota.

Were you client's of Barry's as I understood that he has an exclusive charter arrangement with Villers?

Please, if you find anything out, share it with the group. If you are satisfied that the "lower mainland store" is booking with/for this guy I would really like to know who.

A PM would be appreciated if you are not comfortable with sharing this information publicly (althought that doesn't sound like your style

[deer nut]

lots of politics from legal guide,outfitters and law enforcements goes into it as well, including undercover "hunters", who are very easy to spot, because they smell of coffee and doughnuts.

That's uncalled for. Most COs are very dedicated and hard working. IMO, they are way underpaid for what they do and the risks they take in the line of duty.

[snowhunter]

My friend, I have very hi regards for our law enforcement officers. I hope you understand that this was a joke, "that you can smell law enforcement officer, because they smell of coffee and doughtnut"

However, you do not have any problems with some of the xenophobic comments of deporting this individual who might have lived longer in Canada than you have lived ?

If I need to, I will sent my comments to you first next time, for some censoring

[Devilbear]

I made the comments about deporting Mota and am in favour of such action for any criminal not born here in Canada. This is NOT ...xenophobic...and such a comment simply indicates a lack of understanding as to what xenophobia actually is and is not.

Your comment to "deer nut", however, is hardly an example of a lack of concern for the origins of other posters here and this seems a bit hypocritical to me. I get the impression that you are in favour of Mota and others like him, which I also find a bit odd in a law-abiding resident hunter.

As to ...coffee and doughnuts... where COs and other resource management agency employees are concerned, that is simply an ignorant remark and what one usually hears from those who thought they wanted such employment, but, could not meet the requirements to be hired.

Where living in BC is concerned, perhaps "deer nut" is a newcomer and perhaps not, however, he may well have lived here longer than you have, if you wish to take that approach to the credibility of other posters. Frankly, you do not seem very concerned about the many serious convictions for wildlife offences that Mota has and maybe this is because you find such actions acceptable, or, are a friend of his?

[Devilbear]

Please, if you find anything out, share it with the group. If you are satisfied that the "lower mainland store" is booking with/for this guy I would really like to know who.

A PM would be appreciated if you are not comfortable with sharing this information publicly (althought that doesn't sound like your style

If and I stress if, I can find definite evidence that the store in question is assisting Mota in any respect, I will certainly post that here and I will never deal with them, again. That said, there are those "hunters" in BC, who legally qualify as "residents" who would gladly use the services of Mota and others like him without a qualm and many of these are from certain groups.

Unfortunately, the use of hearsay cannot bring about charges in these instances and the CO service is so understaffed and underfunded, that the scumbags get away with all kinds of dirty deals in hunting and fishing here in BC. This is not a "new" problem and will not change in the forseeable future.

[snowhunter]

It is interesting that Alex Mota's name comes up in these fine pages, and about the crimes he had committed and prosecuted for in Canada.

However, those crimes he committed in Canada, might be peanuts compared to what he was directly involved in, against the impoverish people of Angola, who was fighting for their freedom from Portuguese, colonial rule ?

After learning about Alex Mota's serious human rights violations and exploits as a portuguese "specialist" soldier in Angola, I cannot be in the same room as him, or ever to speak to him again.

Alex Mota's involvment and exploits as a soldier in Angola has for years been well known to various Canadian Law Enforcement Agencies, who, in a response to a request, among others, got this infomation from Portuguese Police files, many, many years ago.

[budismyhorse]

this guy sounds like a real treat.

[urbanhermit]

What training does a CO have against a higly trained, former soldier with years of combat experiences, using his skills for poaching in Western Canada ?

every one loves a good Rambo movie, but they are just movies.