If i could post pic.s on this thing i would i have a hoyt razertec and a trykon xl. Old timer i have never used a kisser button but know a few people that do it`s just what ever works. Just want to say about the WB some are calling it junk its not a target rest allthough i know many that use it for 3d some good shooters to. This piece of junk has 40% of the rest market.