Here is a great site for all of us to check out for all kinds of gear! i bought stuff from here and its all pretty well brand new stuff! www.archerytalk.com and the site does have a lot of good memeber's and a classified ads colum. Bought a Mathews off there for 300.00. have a look LOL tru-glo site with led 30 bucks new in package **cheers** thats just a couple things i got.... lots of dealers selling 2005 models for cheap right now