on the subject or kechika elk there are duscussions underway to increase the season in 2010 when the time is appropriate it would help if guys on this site emailed the moe in fsjohn with those views. on the subject of elk in general the antlerless season in 7 50 is being greatly expanded this season. on the subject of elk impacting sheep that is true somewhat but doesn't appear to be a major factor just one of many. the sheep in the racing have really gone down and while there are elk in there the numbers aren't great same as the toad. in the tuchodi i have hunted elk in there more or less consistently since 1985 most of the elk we see are not on sheep ranges but in the lower hills that were burned by don peck 30 years ago. those burns gave rise to the elk population we have in there now. since this became the mk protected area it is very difficult to get permission to burn in there, but that is what needs to happen. tuchodi is dead on in that regard. I think in 7-50 you could have an any elk season for six weeks and not do much to lower the population access is too difficult.