southern interior mule deer strategy?

[GoatGuy]

Right.
I forgot.
Maybe it's just anecdotal evidence.

Shouldn't take long....

[bownut]

[QUOTE=Fisher-Dude;1881699]Obviously, you think this review of a regulation change within 4 years of the season's implementation never happened.

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife...rov_review.pdf

And I can understand why you think it never happened. And that's because it shows the season to be completely sustainable, and that's contrary to your hoped-for outcome.[/QUOTE

Your not listening to anything I said so why should I reply to your statements.

"OUR PRESNT DAY COUNTING SYSTEM SUCKS" GET WITH THE TIMES!

An average hunter takes a better inventory of our game population than our biologists get funded to do. (Trail cameras, time spent in the field.)
Ranchers know more about predators than a biologist get funded to study, they can't afford not to.
A Back country horsemen knows more about the alpine mule deer than a biologist gets paid to study.

You see the connection? No money, No study, No Clue.


I have reviewed a some of the studies from the States it makes BC Coles Notes look like a joke.
They just don't have the money to make a conclusive report. Maybe ask a few Biologist and see what they say.

[bownut]

[QUOTE=GoatGuy;1881694]So to paraphrase you think wildlife management was good/decent until the last 10 years. You define the last 10 years as poor due to hunting seasons.

Do you have any evidence to support that belief?[

Not Hunting Seasons, Management Practices that lead to poor decisions in the name of Opportunity.

The evidence is slowly unfolding, watch and learn. Look at the records from 2014 to 2016 and watch the trends for the next few years.
It will be perfectly clear if your still involved.

It so interesting how a Statistic Specialist, and a Accountant can play Biologist, their decisions will have more of a effect than
mine ever will.

I sure hope I am wrong I would be the first guy on this site to admit to that.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

[QUOTE=bownut;1881869]

So to paraphrase you think wildlife management was good/decent until the last 10 years. You define the last 10 years as poor due to hunting seasons.

Do you have any evidence to support that belief?[

Not Hunting Seasons, Management Practices that lead to poor decisions in the name of Opportunity.

The evidence is slowly unfolding, watch and learn. Look at the records from 2014 to 2016 and watch the trends for the next few years.
It will be perfectly clear if your still involved.

It so interesting how a Statistic Specialist, and a Accountant can play Biologist, their decisions will have more of a effect than
mine ever will.

I sure hope I am wrong I would be the first guy on this site to admit to that.

They are not playing biologists....they are listening and learning from them. Big difference.

[boxhitch]

Goat guy, Fisher Dude, Stone Sheep Steve, my hat goes off to you guys. I can't believe the patience you are showing in this thread
Attago

[bownut]

[QUOTE=Stone Sheep Steve;1881881]

They are not playing biologists....they are listening and learning from them. Big difference.

I beg to differ.

[bownut]

[QUOTE=Stone Sheep Steve;1881881][QUOTE=bownut;1881869]

They are not playing biologists....they are listening and learning from them. Big difference.[/QUO

So what your saying is if I called up the head biologist, he would totally agree with the management practices that
have unfolded?

Hope your correct because you know what that will prove.

Could all this "Science" put forward in the site have been misinterpreted?

[Stone Sheep Steve]

[QUOTE=bownut;1881943][QUOTE=Stone Sheep Steve;1881881]

They are not playing biologists....they are listening and learning from them. Big difference.[/QUO

So what your saying is if I called up the head biologist, he would totally agree with the management practices that
have unfolded?

For sure.

Was just down at the sheep count and our deer seasons were front and centre of the discussion.

There were some guys there from Rock Creeek voicing their concerns over the whitetail seasons so there was an opportunity to sit and listen to things that I already knew.
Even though they had their concerns they listened with open ears and learned why the seasons were put in place.

Then at the end they were asked what their observations were on mule deer in their area and they agreed that they had seen the most mulies in recent times.
Anecdotal evidence but you say they need to listen to hunters.

SSS

[GoatGuy]

So to paraphrase you think wildlife management was good/decent until the last 10 years. You define the last 10 years as poor due to hunting seasons.

Do you have any evidence to support that belief?

Not Hunting Seasons, Management Practices that lead to poor decisions in the name of Opportunity.

The evidence is slowly unfolding, watch and learn. Look at the records from 2014 to 2016 and watch the trends for the next few years.
It will be perfectly clear if your still involved.

It so interesting how a Statistic Specialist, and a Accountant can play Biologist, their decisions will have more of a effect than
mine ever will.

I sure hope I am wrong I would be the first guy on this site to admit to that.

Which poor management practices have been employed in the last 10 years as compared to the last 20, 30 or 40?

Secondly, and getting back to the original question, do you have any evidence to support your assertion that in the last 10 years management has gone from good/decent to poor?

[bownut]

I guess what I am trying to say is that the BCWF involvement in management has created many wrong doings in wildlife management.
They have lost touch with reality when they focused on increasing the hunter numbers without much regard to wildlife management.
I am not the only one who feels this way and as a long time member that has supported them with my time and efforts I will no longer be a member.
Looking for a better representation seems to be the trend lately, and I am sadden to say this.

Biologist will continue to do great things as long as the funds are available and it will be other organizations with a better understanding of cause and effect
that will come to the forefront.

Sad to see that the BCWF has spread themselves out so thin, they are now facing a long uphill battle that will unnecessarily draw funds and energy from the organization.

Ask yourself why?