most time it's very frustrating for me to see so many atvs screwing around for nothing. a lot of them aren't hunters. One day I saw another poor hunter driving along the logging road with his raised pickup, stopping from time to time and walking into the woods to check around. And the spots he was interested in are in my books too. I did find some good spots on map, but either they aren't accessible with my van due to the road condition, or the logging company just ditched road out. I'm not afraid of hiking up there, but the problem is how could I pack the game out if I get something really big? Time is another key resource to me. Right now I could hardly go for any trip more than a day after I used up all my vac days on my kid. Like today, the weather was unexpectedly good so I had to take her to my friend's farm in Langley to let her play with cows and horses. Well there're a lot deer and bears going through this farm, but you can't shoot them though.