Only 4?? They don't know me. I have some product info and reload info I received from Ballistis Products Inc. and they have a Canadian distributer in Alberta. On my next trip back that way, possibly this November when I go back for my Mulie draw, I may 'bite the bullet' and pick up some Bismuth in a couple of sizes for Ducks as well as Geese. Either that or order it. The catalogue I have from them lists 7#'s of Bismuth for $79.95 and 7#'s of Hevi-Shot for $86.99.