Hevi Shot

[4ptbuck]

With the 2008 Remington rebate of $15 per box of 10 hevi shot shells, it'll make these shells more affordable.

I was thinking of buying some for pass shooting geese.

Has anybody use it in the past?
What size shot for Canadas? #2 or #4?
Does anybody local here stock it?

Thanks

[Crazy_Farmer]

My brothers been shooting it for awhile, if you dont mind the price then its great stuff. I know Hub Sports last flyer has a thing on it, but we've been in 3 times last two weeks and the guys arent sure, say wait for roger, roger says come back next friday. It was way easier and cheaper just getting some down in the states and bringing it back up where they have stock of it.

As for sizes my brother has used pretty much most of the sizes I believe, Bs, 2s, 4s, and also he just got a bunch of #6s which absolutely hammered his last 3 geese, a couple at around 20-25 yards. I think he'll keep using the #6s as the density is just like back in the old days of using lead 6s to kill everything.

But I think hevi-shot recommends that whatever you're shooting you pick either 1 or 2 sizes down from what you'd normally use. So steel BBs would be Bs or 2s.

[4ptbuck]

Yeah, with a $15 rebate per box, the cost of hevi is almost comparable to 3.5" steel. Currently I am shooting HV BBs and have heard the shot bounce off the geese at times.

[Crazy_Farmer]

Also I just remembered hubs deal is for hevi-shot not remington hd, and the deal is I think 10 dollars a box for maximun 5 boxes so not as good as remingtons offer as it pretty close to the same stuff, the company just split away from remington a few years ago.

[zaconb]

It's all I shoot, worth it's weight in gold! #6 for ducks # 4 for geese, but just scored a great deal on #2's and i'm sure if I do my part they'll do theirs!

[Guido02]

Have shoy #6 for gees the last three years. We are shooting over decoys so we have a good guage on distances on approach. I have however killed a couple at a ridiculous distance but there was lots of luck involved

I will stay with it as long as i can find it

[fowl language]

if your pass shooting geese and all you hear is the pellets rattle off them then they are too far.instead of buying hevi shot why not invest in some decoys and get the birds closer. i have watched this time and again with guys sky busting. at the very least let a few flocks by and the latter flocks will follow the flight pattern at a lower height ,giving you a far better oppurtunity.the effective range of steel or hevi shot is forty yards. if you want to improve on this buy a reloader and learn the combo to speed up your steel as this is in my opinion the way to more effixient kill with less cripling.......fowl

[Crazy_Farmer]

The reason guys shoot hevi-shot is becuase of the patterning and density of the shot. Its more dense and heavy then lead so it patterns far better out of guns and stays tighter further out then steel. I agree very much with the statement that the effective and lethal range of steel is 40-45 yards, depending on where they get hit. But heavy shot, becuase it acts just like or better then lead it is far more deadly then steel at the same range which equals longer lethal range, so +45 yards.

Though I do see where you're coming from with all this, just saying the effective range is 40 yards, so guys everywhere dont just think if they buy hevi-shot they'll be able to hammer geese out to 60 yards as they come over and skybust them, I guess its more of a problem out there then here.

[Marc]

Heavy shot is nice for a back up in the event that you're trying to sneak up on a flock of geese and you want maximum range, or you're chasing down a cripple without a dog and he's getting away on you. Over decoys 20-40 yards on geese there is no reason why steel BB at 1400+ feet per second wont knock them down.

If you want a tighter pattern I suggest you spend the money on a pattern master choke system in your shotgun. I have one for my Beretta and it greatly tightens up the pattern for those longer range shots as they just skirt the dekes.

I've actually moved down a size to #3 steel this season as I'm reloading them to 1550 fps and should be plenty knock down power for any duck in range of the dekes.

I picked up a new super mag shotty this summer so I decided to try the new 3 1/2 loads and picked up a box of federal BB with 1 3/8 oz of steel traveling at 1550 fps. If that doesn't crumple geese out to 40 yards I give up.

[Crazy_Farmer]

Also whenever you switch over to a new choke, always pattern your gun. Go out buy some 3x3 rolls or sheets of paper and shoot them with whatever ammo you're planning on using, and which yardage you think you'll be shooting the most.

I know with my extended ww choke #2s patterned at 40 yards at like 90% while the same load in BB was only at 80%. You'll learn alot and find out which load is actaully the best for your gun. You may even find that the cheaper shells from a different company may pattern better out of your gun. Or that, the old gun you always wanted to shoot as it was your dads or something, it shoots high and the right, may have some barrel defect. So it may not be your fault why you cant seem to hit the broadside of a barn.

Also about aftermarket chokes you need to do a bit of research too for your ammo. Most of the wad-restricting chokes will not work with the new "black-cloud" ammo from federal. Reason is the wad in this new ammo is designed to split open at the rear instead of the front with normal wads and so it supposed hold the pattern further out and so the pattern gets all thrown out to wack using a a wad-restricting choke.

I think my brothers gun patterned like 35% at 40 yards with black cloud BBs. I see that pattern master has actaully corrected the problem by offering a new choke designed to be only used with black cloud ammo.