Medipak - SRUPP ???

[waistdeep]

Yep I can see it now, I am loading our stash with Stan and the boys, and out comes a big box of maxi pads - uhhh right!!!!!!!

[srupp]

Several years ago we were moose hunting a remote northern lake..Jennings when the CO'S flew in on chopper..they asked how many "guys "in camp we said "4 guys" when they noticed a box of tampons..at first the CO walked by but his curiousity got the better of him and he asked.."4 GUYS ..why the box of tampons...????"..

I told him what they were for..we hang them around the lake and saturate them in MOOSE pee..they REALLY absorb a lot of the stuff and hold it for days..and when through they are biodegradable...if we miss one it simply washes away in the rain..also they are visible at long ranges for spotting moose coming in on the sneak...

As a secondary use they keep other hunters away once they see them hangiong in the trees.....a warning of some sort..

Steven

[Hoytster]

lol...I can see them hanging now...lol....kinda like when the kids got up in the morning in "The Blaire Witch Project"....Ok ..I better stop cause some female hunter will soon have their cross hairs on me....However....I think that the scent hanging idea is the best!...will put it to work this year. Waistdeep...as an Instructor, I can get a hold of all supplies that you may need at cost.....all medical grade and nothing cheap quality. If you like, I can put some in my orders and get this for you. As well, I have some resources that can hook me up to survival kits of all types...Im sure we could put together a pretty descent Wilderness First Aid kit......or...we could get Steven to ask his Super to donate the Stations yellow survival emergency back pack for the cause...lol......One more little story......years back I was comming back to my North Camp when a group of tree planters waved me over.....while trying to fix a flat, the jack slipped, crushing the guys left hand.....after cleaning it I used my baby's size 3 diaper to contain his hand and dressings....it was the best! Formed perfectly around the contours of his hand and was able to absorb any blood soaking through.....after we got back to camp, I was curious and tested how much fluid could be absorbed in a size 3 diaper.....3.5 coffee cups in all!...

[srupp]

I have my "list " WHAT I carry and why..and will post the list tonite with Susans help..

I MUST state this is NOT a how to or in place of a competent first aid course..I am merely stating what I carry and why...PLEASE get a good first aid course ...EVERYONE..

Steven

[waistdeep]

look forward to it Steve, we have my son that has level 2 but would need to have the list filled or supplied. Hoytster,if you can get me the items at cost well that is a super bonus, PM and I will send the cash to you for the supplies. For all hunters this is a seriously great thread, we do have the technology to assist alot of guys and gals in the field.

Let me know what so we can get the items sent with courier, if others want the same thing now is the time to speak up.

[srupp]

TECHNOLOGY????huh???

LOL steven

[NaStY]

I would definitely be interested in a first aid / survival kit. Have had to do a few clean ups in my life, although ive had no official training.....

[srupp]

Disclaimer :

The following is what "I" carry as a minimal and essential first aid kit and why. It is NOT intended as a first aid course, or training.

The following deals mostly with injuries, and not ailments.

First and foremost, I highly recommend some sort of first aid training. In the back country, days from help is not the time to be learning; it is the time to do. It is truly more in the training than "the stuff." However, that being said, even paramedics travel around in ambulances carrying some "stuff."

After a good first aid course, a small plastic-covered "flip chart" with essential treatment guidelines for various first aid situations and injuries would be helpful. Amazing how one's mind tends to go "blank" when your best bud has a hole in his leg, is losing blood and screaming in pain.

Next, a small "water-proof" container to hold these essentials dry and clean. These small three-seal camera bags are ideal. Wet and dirty means useless.

SMALL CUTS:

Crazy Glue: For small, shallow cuts with a flap. Seals well, fast, keeps out bacterial infections and promotes fast healing. Keep re-applying every couple of days. Not IN the wound - around edges.

Band Aids: Twenty good quality fabric band aids - the wide 1" ones.

Knuckle Band Aids: 6 good quality fabric material.

Finger Tip Band Aids: 6 good quality fabric material.

Benzoin Topical Adhesive Swab: aka. Fryar's Balsam - "painted"
around the wound site and NOT IN...and allowed to dry makes
steri-strips-band aids stick like cement and not peel off.

Alcohol Swabs: 8 packets (1.5"X1.5")

Provoiodine Swabs: 8 packets (1.5"X1.5"). These clean small
wounds effectively and help prevent infection.

Single Use Antiseptic: 2 small single-use plastic squeeze containers
for cleaning MINOR wounds.

Single Use Normal Saline: 2 small single-use plastic squeeze
containers for irrigating (flushing) small cuts, lacerations with gross
(particles) contamination or flushing an eye.

Q-Tips: 20 for applying Fryar's Balsam, cleaning wounds or removing
whatever...NOT adhering or penetrating an eye - foreign substance.

Tweezers: Small sterile, ie. Uncle Henry's.

Moleskin: 4"X7" sheet for cutting custom sizes and shapes for
blisters. (I have an armed forces forced march first aid treatment in
the field of blisters if anyone is interested at a later date?)

FOR MEDIUM & BIGGER CUTS & LACERATIONS:

- One 7.5 cm tensor bandage which holds pressure much better than
other "klings" etc.

- Two 7.5 cm kling rolls.
- Tape - good quality (1" X 10 yards)
- Four sterile gauze pads (4" X 4")
- Rubber gloves (non-latex...one pair extra large)
- Four Telfa pads (non-stick 4" X 4")

Steri Strips: These are strips that close large cuts and hold (mate)
the two open edges together, when Benzoin, aka. Fryer's Balsam is
used properly and the wound "dressed"... it holds just like sutures
(stitches).

ABD Pads: 3 Pressure dressings - or XL Maxi Pads can be used over
large lacerations with pressure to stop bleeding. All do exactly the
same thing.

Bactigras: 2 Treated antibacterial gauze pads for burns (4"X 4")

Rubber Elastic Tensor: 1 (aka. tourniquet)

Cloth Triangular Bandages: 2

Duct Tape: 1 roll...amazing stuff, hundreds of uses, ie. splinting.

"Quick Clot" or? 1 Container...Cabela's sells these and are for last
resort major bleeds. This is a collegan-based product and there
have been some allergic reactions.

A new product "Traumadex" is a derivative from the potatoe. These
products initiate coagulation within seconds. They also act as as a
molecular sieve to absorb fluids in the blood, attracting and concent-
rating proteins and platelets, thus accelerating the clotting process.

Used with pressure, rest and seeking immediate medical intervention
ie. "SPOT" or satellite phone. This is the best that can be done for
major bleeds.

Immodium: Fluid loss is fluid loss

Benadryl: 6 antihistamine

Ibuprofen :Advil

A.S.A. (4 X 81 mg. tablets) As trained paramedics, we have
protocols that allow us to give two 81 mg. A.S.A. tablets when the
scenario is highly suggestive of a heart attack and the patient is not
allergic to A.S.A. This is what I carry and do. I am not suggesting
you do this.

Emergency Blankets: 2 high quality foil blankets

Antibiotic: Wide spectrum antibiotic from a doctor by prescription.
Confirm no allergies. Start antibiotic and monitor - may save a two
week horseback hunt?

[waistdeep]

This "technology" of the internet is amazing, I would not have know this without this forum and these friends I have never met. Thanks Steve. Thanks Cris for helping now get these items all put together. My next challenge that has been realized is that I need to take my own course on first aid to make sure I know what to do in case of a situation. Need to find one around the Okanagan this summer.

Taking 5 guys and 12 horses out this fall needs lots of prep work to make sure all bases are covered. Neat thing is I have great hunting partners that will cover my back like I want to cover theirs.

That crazy glue concept is an eye opener! that and pads - what a concept!

[srupp]

much simpler..take a PARAMEDIC along..no charge for accompanying on STONE sheep hunts...by horseback..lol ( shameless plug)

Hope this helps..it is all basic stuff not needing any fancy level of license..

I am open for questions IF needed...

Steven