View Poll Results: If "no conservation concern" Do you support the removal of the W.K. LEH Hunt

Voters
169. You may not vote on this poll
  • Out of Region hunters: Yes, remove W.K. LEH elk hunt.

    82 48.52%
  • Hunters living in Reg. 4: Yes, remove the W.K. LEH elk hunt

    29 17.16%
  • Out of Region hunters: No, keep as is.

    35 20.71%
  • Hunters living in Reg. 4: No, keep as is.

    23 13.61%
Page 41 of 41 FirstFirst ... 31394041
Results 401 to 405 of 405

Thread: West Kootenay LEH Bull Elk - Poll

  1. #401
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    4,061

    Re: West Kootenay LEH Bull Elk - Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by hunter1947 View Post
    BCR I do have to agree with you on a GOS for 6 or better ,this would work good and then go from there.
    Have the opening day and the closing day the same as the EK GOS .
    The LEH then could be dumped.

    What I would disagree on would be a GOS for 3 or better for the entire GOS.

    This was never proposed. A short 1 week to 14 day season is all that should be in place first as far as 3 pt seasons go.

    Look at the EK they implemented a 6 or better GOS over 10 years ago and now look at where the population is to this day .

    6616 beat me to it ..... it wasn't because of the 6 pt season.

    6 pt seasons also do not create more elk or bigger bulls
    I think many hunters (including advocates of the 6 pt regulation) will be surprised that by opening things up and reducing the EK elk population from where it is right now and harvesting a cross section of animals......the trophy potential /opportunity for those who wish to hunt big bulls will increase.
    "The mountains are calling and I must go."

    -- John Muir

  2. #402
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Kamloops
    Posts
    781

    Re: West Kootenay LEH Bull Elk - Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by 6616 View Post
    What the heck am I writing this for, it's all been said over and over again on this thread already.

    It doesn't hurt to have it all spelled out again, repetition is a great tool!
    "The problem with internet quotes is it is very hard to determine their authenticity." --Abraham Lincoln

  3. #403
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Cranbrook BC Where The Elk Are..
    Posts
    29,308

    Re: West Kootenay LEH Bull Elk - Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by 6616 View Post
    Interestingly even though the 6pt regulation was a component of the recovery strategy, the truth is that the 6pt rule alone was not the reason for the recovery (and this has also been pointed out before on this thread). The recovery occurred primarily because they stopped issuing antlerless permits. The same goes for population control at the current time. You simply cannot impact population densities by harvesting male animals alone. Male harvet levels are only a single component of any harvest stratgey. As BCRams said, harvesting a cross section of the population from all age and sex classes is an important step.

    By the way Wayne, I agree with FisherDude on the WK LEH when it comes to recruitment/retention. Increasing LEH odds from 100 to 35 to one is not going to cause any dramatic increase in participation. LEH should be a last resort. Shorter seasons, season timing, antler restrictions, and many other tools should be fully exploited before resorting to LEH. It's been shown in several cases where LEH has simply killed off hunter interest. LEH is only one tool in the toolbox, but it's been overused since it's fail safe and doesn't require a whole load of data. It's become a crutch F&W has become reliant on due to poor budgets and manpower situations which limit surveys and data acquisition.
    Well Andy if they do dump the LEH in the WK how are they going to know how many bulls come out of this region in a calender year ???.

    The only way I see it is to have it mandatory to report your harvest.
    Last edited by hunter1947; 12-09-2008 at 04:12 PM.

  4. #404
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Golden BC
    Posts
    4,365

    Re: West Kootenay LEH Bull Elk - Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by hunter1947 View Post
    Well Andy if they do dump the LEH in the WK how are they going to know how many bulls come out of this region in a calender year ???.

    The only way I see it is to have it mandatory to report your harvest.
    I agree 100% with compulsory reporting. Hard and firm data that cannot be disputed.

  5. #405
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    4,061

    Re: West Kootenay LEH Bull Elk - Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by hunter1947 View Post
    Well Andy if they do dump the LEH in the WK how are they going to know how many bulls come out of this region in a calender year ???.

    The only way I see it is to have it mandatory to report your harvest.
    Region 7a had mandatory reporting when they opened up the elk season here to monitor the harvest. The elk population is doing very well and consequently, the compulsory inspection was removed this year.

    The same would apply for the WK.
    "The mountains are calling and I must go."

    -- John Muir

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •