Grizzly Bear Engagement Opportunity! DO IT!

[eatram]

I just completed it. If you click submit at the very end, it sends you a pdf version of your Grizzly tag for 2023! I'm so happy! But you must complete the form in it's entirety and with the cheat sheet above. If it's not exactly as shown above, you only get a "share" window.

Now where should I go to get a big one?!

[Arctic Lake]

Thank You !
Arctic Lake

Read through the Wild Sheep Societies Cheat Sheet as well if you care too. Its pretty similar, our letter to the Minister also is a quick read that sums up a stance I feel all hunters and conservationists can get behind. Was posted above but here's the link again. A quick review of my personal, and the 2 documents from WSSBC will give you a pretty good idea of what this framework consists of.

https://www.wildsheepsociety.com/actnow/

[Arctic Lake]

Done
Arctic Lake

[stoneramhunter]

Will the grizzly hunt still be a trophy hunt? The issue of packing out the meat was not addressed in the questioner. I passed on filling it out.

[Harvest the Land]

Will the grizzly hunt still be a trophy hunt? The issue of packing out the meat was not addressed in the questioner. I passed on filling it out.

Maybe the "issue" of packing out meat is not an issue because grizz hunt enthusiasts will gladly pack the meat out if it means we can hunt them again. Also, nothing goes to waste in nature so it was a non issue for many who realize this irrefutable reality

[stoneramhunter]

Maybe the "issue" of packing out meat is not an issue because grizz hunt enthusiasts will gladly pack the meat out if it means we can hunt them again. Also, nothing goes to waste in nature so it was a non issue for many who realize this irrefutable reality

with all due respect I would disagree with you re: " Irrefutable reality" Grizzly bears are not the domain of hunters solely they are shared with non hunters and in fact those with anti hunting views despite whether one agrees or not. They have and are entitled to an opinion. The world and majority of the population in canada is against hunting bears strictly for trophy hunts. As Ive stated before Alaska is beginning to feel the heat and are looking at scenerios re packing the meet out. What you do with the meat when you get homfe is entirely up to you. Personally im in favor of meat being packed out.

[Harvest the Land]

with all due respect I would disagree with you re: " Irrefutable reality" Grizzly bears are not the domain of hunters solely they are shared with non hunters and in fact those with anti hunting views despite whether one agrees or not. They have and are entitled to an opinion. The world and majority of the population in canada is against hunting bears strictly for trophy hunts. As Ive stated before Alaska is beginning to feel the heat and are looking at scenerios re packing the meet out. What you do with the meat when you get homfe is entirely up to you. Personally im in favor of meat being packed out.

So you dont believe that nothing goes to waste in nature?

[Darksith]

Will the grizzly hunt still be a trophy hunt? The issue of packing out the meat was not addressed in the questioner. I passed on filling it out.

you passed on filling it out bc of an issue not addressed? This isn't asking whether or not we should hunt g bears, but we are using this opportunity to express that the hunt should be allowed and it should be an indicator of a strong healthy g bear population in areas that have hunting. This is a high level document that needs engagement from us hunters, it shows that we care about conservation, it shows that there are advantages to what we do and it opens the door to the hunt being reopened or it could close the door forever!

Please tell me what is a trophy hunt in regards to conservation? The only thing that really should matter is the science behind sustainable or not in regards to a hunters harvest. You may have ethics where if the meat isn't removed (and then what tossed out? Fed to a dog? Eaten by a human?) you won't support it...well guess what, an anti hunter has ethics that no animal should be hunted, a vegan has ethics that no animal should be harmed...do we agree with those ethics? Do we support hunting or not! The science doesn't care what we do with an animal after we pull the trigger, the science just cares whether removing that animal will have a positive, negative or no effect on the population of that species. Don't let your ethical stance get in the way of supporting hunting, thats what got us here in the first place, thats what got the spring black bear hunt banned in Washington state, thats what will get hunting banned period. Then your ethics won't mean a damn thing.

We have been pushing hard and will continue to push for science based conservation practices. We must stop emotions from people so out of touch with nature and conservation dictating decisions that affect ecosystems. I don't like this so lets cancel it, but the down side of that decision could and does impact so many things...like the mountain caribou as a perfect example. Raincoast has already been on record saying let them go, the bears are more important than protecting an endangered species. This shows how foolish their stance is and how narrow sighted it is. Humans have impacted so much of the landscape, the various ecosystems that we have to manage everything or get out completely...man I could go on and on about this. Too much tunnel vision, we need to stop and let science make sound decisions and we need funding to acquire actual data so science can make the right decision...

It blows me away that we continue to lose things, target sport rifles, hand guns, g bear hunt, black bear spring hunt and yet some people still don't get the fact that if we don't unite and work together we will lose it all. Whats next for us? Cougar hunt goes away, black bear hunt (already gone on Haida Gwaii), soon it will be your hunting rifle and then it will be hunting completely...

[Bullreaper]

you passed on filling it out bc of an issue not addressed? This isn't asking whether or not we should hunt g bears, but we are using this opportunity to express that the hunt should be allowed and it should be an indicator of a strong healthy g bear population in areas that have hunting. This is a high level document that needs engagement from us hunters, it shows that we care about conservation, it shows that there are advantages to what we do and it opens the door to the hunt being reopened or it could close the door forever!

Please tell me what is a trophy hunt in regards to conservation? The only thing that really should matter is the science behind sustainable or not in regards to a hunters harvest. You may have ethics where if the meat isn't removed (and then what tossed out? Fed to a dog? Eaten by a human?) you won't support it...well guess what, an anti hunter has ethics that no animal should be hunted, a vegan has ethics that no animal should be harmed...do we agree with those ethics? Do we support hunting or not! The science doesn't care what we do with an animal after we pull the trigger, the science just cares whether removing that animal will have a positive, negative or no effect on the population of that animal. Don't let your ethical stance get in the way of supporting hunting, thats what got us here in the first place, thats what got the spring black bear hunt banned in Washington state, thats what will get hunting banned period. Then your ethics won't mean a damn thing.

We have been pushing hard and will continue to push for science based conservation practices. We must stop emotions from people so out of touch with nature and conservation dictating decisions that affect ecosystems. I don't like this so lets cancel it, but the down side of that decision could and does impact so many things...like the mountain caribou as a perfect example. Raincoast has already been on record saying let them go, the bears are more important than protecting an endangered species. This shows how foolish their stance is and how narrow sighted it is.

It blows me away that we continue to lose things, target sport rifles, hand guns, g bear hunt, black bear spring hunt and yet some people still don't get the fact that if we don't unite and work together we will lose it all. Whats next for us? Cougar hunt goes away, black bear hunt (already gone on Haida Gwaii), soon it will be your hunting rifle and then it will be hunting completely...

It’s very frustrating that we cannot get hunter engagement on issues that mean something. This is essentially hunters vs anti’s. We are all hunters, we should be able to stand together for a common cause. To keep opportunities that we have or want back, as long as they are sustainable. Instead it’s always a pissing match, bickering back and forth between each other, which is what the anti’s are hoping for and they continue to get it. If this was a thread about a 6.5 creedmoor being enough to kill an elk, almost every member on this forum would be engaged in the conversation.
Who cares if you agree with trophy hunting or not, if it’s not your thing, don’t do it. Let’s as a group worry about getting the hunt back first and foremost. Why engage if it’s not something your into? I don’t hunt whitetail, but if whitetail hunting was under attack in your area of BC, you bet your ass I’d still be making sure my voice was heard, because as hunters, it’s what needs to be done and what should be done. Big picture, common cause.

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to do the survey and thank you to the guys that provided a “cheat sheet” to make it as simple as possible. Those of you who don’t take the time to make yourself heard, I really hope you don’t start b******g if we continue to lose.

[stoneramhunter]

It’s very frustrating that we cannot get hunter engagement on issues that mean something. This is essentially hunters vs anti’s. We are all hunters, we should be able to stand together for a common cause. To keep opportunities that we have or want back, as long as they are sustainable. Instead it’s always a pissing match, bickering back and forth between each other, which is what the anti’s are hoping for and they continue to get it. If this was a thread about a 6.5 creedmoor being enough to kill an elk, almost every member on this forum would be engaged in the conversation.
Who cares if you agree with trophy hunting or not, if it’s not your thing, don’t do it. Let’s as a group worry about getting the hunt back first and foremost. Why engage if it’s not something your into? I don’t hunt whitetail, but if whitetail hunting was under attack in your area of BC, you bet your ass I’d still be making sure my voice was heard, because as hunters, it’s what needs to be done and what should be done. Big picture, common cause.

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to do the survey and thank you to the guys that provided a “cheat sheet” to make it as simple as possible. Those of you who don’t take the time to make yourself heard, I really hope you don’t start b******g if we continue to lose.

You seem to think that anyone that has an opinion that differs from you is anti hunting vegan. Thats not accurate. there are many people that are not hunters, who are not against hunting but feel strongly about hunters taking the cape and skull and leaving the meat. On that position i agree. To be clear im not a anti hunter. I simply dont want to be associated with a position of bringing the hunt back for trophy hunting its a bad optic in my opinion. i'm sure you will get plenty of favorable questionnaires filled out. \i think a position of the" meat left in the woods is not going to waste" will simply backfire you need to engage the non hunters to ever have a chance of the hunt coming back and i think that starts with an understanding that the meat will be packed out. Your point of "who cares if you agree with trophy hunting or not, if its not your thing don't do it" I dont shoot and leave the meat behind its defiantly not my thing and im not in favor of it hence my position. \\i am not against grizzly hunting just being realistic