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    Equal Access To Wilderness / Unauthorized Gates

    Hello to all! I hope everyone is doing well.

    I have been in contact with the Ministry regarding unauthorized gates being installed on forestry service roads. The backstory for us here is that returning from a weekend trip last year, my wife and I found ourselves locked behind a newly installed gate.

    After some hours of being stuck, a local falsely claiming to be a BC Hydro representative opened the gate for us. It was quite obvious that it was not a BC Hydro gate and he was not a BC Hydro representative. I later confirmed that with BC Hydro.

    BC Hydro did some investigating of their own and were advised by the locals that the gate was to protect the land during fire season. It has remained closed since and we are no longer to access a large amount of land / roads for hunting, camping or even to retrieve our trail cameras.

    I spoke with a Ministry (Forests) representative who confirmed there are an increasing number of gates being installed in different areas which are not authorized by them. They also confirmed my suspicion the reason for these gates is to prevent hunters from entering these areas. He stated (and I might be paraphrasing) that they are unable to remove the gates because of the controversy it would cause. He indicated the issue at hand is very political and goes all the way to the top levels of government. The best (and maybe only?) course of action is to write our MLA's.

    The increasing loss of access to outdoor recreation for hunters, hikers, anglers, campers, etc, should be a very big deal to most, just as the executive branch of government undermining the legislative branch and enforcement, dictating which laws will be enforced or ignored depending on who is involved should be very concerning to anyone. Blocking a road and interfering with hunting activity are both unlawful.

    The purpose of this post is to try to determine the scope of impact to outdoor users. I will be looking for feedback from similar groups (anglers, hikers, 4x4 groups, etc) to be able to organize efforts such as writing letters to or in person meetings with MLA's, media contact, messaging, etc.

    I have created an email address EqualWildernessAccess@gmail.com (for now) to gather information from anyone who is interested. I might also start a mailing list or other platform at a later time. For now, what I am looking for is:

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    Name:

    Email:

    Are you concerned with unauthorized gates restricting access to the back country:

    Have you encountered or been affected by unauthorized gate(s)? (Note: You do not need to specify the location of the gate(s), but if you do it will be helpful)
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    None of the above information will be shared with anyone but rather data such as "How many unauthorized gates", "How many outdoor users are being affected", "hectares of access restricted". If there is ever a reason / benefit to share further information, I will reach out and request your permission first.

    If anyone else has some constructive ideas, suggestions, etc, please do chime in. I do ask that we keep the thread civil. How we conduct ourselves is vital for the future of hunting and back country access in general. If we act in a manner that shuts down our own conversations, we can will not gain any traction. If that should happen, perhaps the mod's would be able to turn off comments and make it sticky thread for a period of time.

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    Re: Equal Access To Wilderness / Unauthorized Gates

    Wow thanks for the heads up on this. That would have sucked to be stuck behind an unauthorized gate for hours and not know who to contact or if/when you would get out, particularly if you had to work on Monday morning.

    Any chance you would be interested in providing the MU (or general vicinity) of where this occurred, so that those of us who might also hunt/scout these areas can be aware of what we might be getting ourselves into?

    I will make sure to post here if I encounter any unauthorized gates
    "It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin

    "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it" - George Orwell

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    Re: Equal Access To Wilderness / Unauthorized Gates

    Why not just rip them out yourselves?? Some people did that with some up near Prince George.

    If the authorities won't pull illegal gates out why would they care if someone else does it???

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    Re: Equal Access To Wilderness / Unauthorized Gates

    Cutting torch.

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    Re: Equal Access To Wilderness / Unauthorized Gates

    Cordless disc grinder is a very handy tool in case you have a breakdown in the bush….


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    Re: Equal Access To Wilderness / Unauthorized Gates

    "Illegal gates, but we can't do anything about it" Sounds about right. If they are illegal than you can't get charged for cutting it or removing it.

    I really hope guys are going to start cutting these, because if not. They will be like cattle guards in the Okanagan. At the start of every FSR.

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    Re: Equal Access To Wilderness / Unauthorized Gates

    What did it look like did you get a picture? Would like to know how to differentiate between a logging gate or one of these pieces of sh!t

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    Re: Equal Access To Wilderness / Unauthorized Gates

    100% - just cut them. Keep bolt cutters or a grinder in your truck.

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    Re: Equal Access To Wilderness / Unauthorized Gates

    Me too.. post a pic if anyone has one

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    Re: Equal Access To Wilderness / Unauthorized Gates

    And also what number did you contact the ministry at caddis?

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