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    Together for Wildlife Strategies

    Just posting up a link for those interested “Together for Wildlife Projects”:

    https://experience.arcgis.com/experi...92fdf3c2bb913a

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    Re: Together for Wildlife Strategies

    Did the TOGETHER FOR WILDLIFE group even consider anything from resident groups in their decisions on the Moose and Caribou regulations changes for Region 7 this past spring .......
    NOT !
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    Re: Together for Wildlife Strategies

    Quote Originally Posted by Imdone View Post
    Did the TOGETHER FOR WILDLIFE group even consider anything from resident groups in their decisions on the Moose and Caribou regulations changes for Region 7 this past spring .......
    NOT !
    Together for Wildlife is a group of stakeholders (many are hunters) who have found common ground in working together, without personal agenda. The T4W focus is wildlife and habitat. Not hunting regulations. The critical focus is wildlife populations. However, to your point, are residents included in the discussions/decisions. Residents 'generate' the overarching discussions. Government renders the decision. A person can not link the activities of 'supporting wildlife' and hunting regulation with external Government decisions impacting many users of the land. Sorry, maybe a bit convoluted. But the decisions made on the land which are alienating residents is coming from another Government effort. In my opinion.

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    Re: Together for Wildlife Strategies

    "But the decisions made on the land which are alienating residents is coming from another Government effort."
    the federal response to UNDRIP will always be the trump card
    Glad to say I have hunted Northern BC

    Simon Fraser had pretty good judgement on what he found in BC

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    Re: Together for Wildlife Strategies

    Quote Originally Posted by high horse Hal View Post
    "But the decisions made on the land which are alienating residents is coming from another Government effort."
    the federal response to UNDRIP will always be the trump card
    In this case the BC NDP government's commitment to UNDRIP.

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    Re: Together for Wildlife Strategies

    Here is the Minister's Wildlife Advisory Council
    https://www.ministerswildlifeadvisor...et-the-council

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    Re: Together for Wildlife Strategies

    Quote Originally Posted by huntingfamily View Post
    Here is the Minister's Wildlife Advisory Council
    https://www.ministerswildlifeadvisor...et-the-council
    And directly from MWAC and under the T4W, Regional Wildlife Advisory Tables (RWAC) are being set up. The focus on land stewardship, fish/wildlife and their habitats. Wildlife inventory, access management, burn management, harvest plans (FLPs), eco-tourism, highway mortality.
    And the continuation of any current regional hunting trapping advisory tables. And the establishment of additional regional tables where currently they may not be active. And ensuring all regions follow a common/modified framework.

    There are a number of groups in active discussion feeding ideas toward this.
    The Indigenous Forum https://www.firstnationsbcwildlifeforum.ca/
    The Provincial Hunting Trapping Advisory Team https://www.bchuntingtrappingadvisory.ca/

    And the BC Fish Wildlife and Habitat Coalition https://fwhbc.ca/

    Not to mention BCWF, WSSC, BC BHA, Hunters for BC, UBBC, and the list goes on. Each of these organizations is represented in most of these groups above. Hunters do have a voice. If people want to get involved there is room. It takes time to find ones footing in the big picture but all contribution is valued. If people want to engage in discussion on here, in meaningful dialogue, myself and others on here are all listening. Scope management would be a key and difficult component of the discussion I'm sure.

    Awareness is what its all about. There are lots of discussions that are not public and actions and decisions take time to clarify. With a public release such as this T4W release, it opens opportunity to dig a little deeper into discussions and ideas.

    The objective of T4W is to make more wildlife and establish better practices on the land.

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    Re: Together for Wildlife Strategies

    Dragging this back up to the top as it hit page 2 too quickly and disappeared.

    There is some important information in this thread.

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    Re: Together for Wildlife Strategies

    Quote Originally Posted by J_T View Post
    And directly from MWAC and under the T4W, Regional Wildlife Advisory Tables (RWAC) are being set up. The focus on land stewardship, fish/wildlife and their habitats. Wildlife inventory, access management, burn management, harvest plans (FLPs), eco-tourism, highway mortality.
    And the continuation of any current regional hunting trapping advisory tables. And the establishment of additional regional tables where currently they may not be active. And ensuring all regions follow a common/modified framework.

    There are a number of groups in active discussion feeding ideas toward this.
    The Indigenous Forum https://www.firstnationsbcwildlifeforum.ca/
    The Provincial Hunting Trapping Advisory Team https://www.bchuntingtrappingadvisory.ca/

    And the BC Fish Wildlife and Habitat Coalition https://fwhbc.ca/

    Not to mention BCWF, WSSC, BC BHA, Hunters for BC, UBBC, and the list goes on. Each of these organizations is represented in most of these groups above. Hunters do have a voice. If people want to get involved there is room. It takes time to find ones footing in the big picture but all contribution is valued. If people want to engage in discussion on here, in meaningful dialogue, myself and others on here are all listening. Scope management would be a key and difficult component of the discussion I'm sure.

    Awareness is what its all about. There are lots of discussions that are not public and actions and decisions take time to clarify. With a public release such as this T4W release, it opens opportunity to dig a little deeper into discussions and ideas.

    The objective of T4W is to make more wildlife and establish better practices on the land.
    Just took a few minutes to read through the The Indigenous Forum https://www.firstnationsbcwildlifeforum.ca/.

    Maybe you can shed some light on this - when they say that so far they have "Proposed Wildlife Act amendments to support reconciliation", how exactly does supporting reconciliation translate into making more wildlife on the land? When you say "without personal agenda" in post #3, what exactly were you referring too? Is reconciliation not a personal agenda of many indigenous folks all across this province? Or when they say "Advancing Goal 5 – Collaborative wildlife stewardship advances reconciliation with Indigenous governments", how exactly is advancing reconciliation with indigenous governments going to create more wildlife on the landscape? How is that not considered a "personal agenda" in your mind?
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    Re: Together for Wildlife Strategies

    Look, there certainly is a lot of “what ifs” and “what’s the end game” for RH.
    Certainly BC is going thru a big change, and how I plays out no one really knows.
    I also get we have had decades of many folks making recommendations and no one listening, ie, government, especially if you fall into the RH category only.
    Reconciliation is totally another beast to contend with, and no one knows where it’s headed.

    What JT is trying to say to us, RH, is we can’t sit on the sidelines and just continue to bitch.
    Nixon once said the reason we see a society either too far to the right it left, is because the “majority of folks stay silent”, thus you end up being in a system that does not reflect “your values”.

    However, being vocal has to be done right.
    Bitching sideways, makes no headway and only rips apart friendships with those with similar interests.
    Staying quiet, sitting back, also is no good.
    Thats surely a recipe for disaster and that lack of commitment only gets us exactly what we deserve, nothing.

    Example, we all know how stupid the Chinook fishing has gotten within the regs.
    And for years now, there has been a dedicated group of folks in the sport fishing arena who have tried hard to provide science and hands on efforts to get government to listen.
    For years now it has looked like a total lost cause and head bangingly frustrated.
    Bit now, there is rumours that change might be coming for next season.
    No guarantee yet, but some hope for the first time in years.

    Folks like JT are “volunteering” their time.
    He isn’t getting paid.
    Snd there is a group of folks like JT out there right now trying their best.
    The problem is, it’s a “small group if dedicated folks”!
    We need “more folks”!!
    Basically has many hands/boots and minds as possible right now.
    There is no guarantees what prevails in the end.
    Blind faith right now to be honest.

    But I guarantee if everyone just sits on the sidelines, bickering at each other, that the end game is a big fat “0” for RH.
    There is no other options.

    These committees need “our support”.
    Dies anybody have any better solutions currently?
    Does sitting around bitching about it or doing nothing, or tolling iced and okay dead going to make it better?
    Or are people only going to show up after it’s over and its too late?

    No effort, no constructive voice, no pay off!
    Then you end up with exactly what you put in…… nothing.
    May not end up being fair, but we need wildlife first, and they need habitat.
    The other parts if the pie comes later.

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