tsilhqotin nation asking hunters with moose tags issued by bc government to stay home

[whitlers]

We are still going and will be leaving a member or two at camp at all times.

[Deer_Slayer]

Earth is billions of years old. Who was here before the aboriginals? They have no right to dictate diddly squat. They want tradition, then go back to tradition. NOTHING modern that came from Europeans...NOTHING! Go back to protecting your women and children from grizzlies with a wooden stick and a stone tied on the end. Actually if Europeans hadn't arrived natives would probably be extinct and their bone fragments found in old bear scat!

[Deer_Slayer]

Time to tell these so called chiefs that we are not part of their tribe and we don't take marching orders from them.

[lcgoatboy]

We are still going and will be leaving a member or two at camp at all times.

That's exactly what I'm thinking!

[ghunter4x4]

I will join in this movement as well. I can hunt 10 minutes from my back door but this seems like a great cause to get behind.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Is chief Joe going to issue those hunters refunds for their tags? "Maybe there needs to be a wake-up call"? Sure sounds like he's asking for a fight. Hes not King Joe, he's chief Joe. At what point will the 95% of British Columbians stop taking their marching orders from the 5%?

Another thing I don't understand is if chief Joe wants to be an autonomous national government, then why the hell are taxpayers still funding his band's very existence? Clearly he wants to have his cake and eat it too! Sorry Joe, you want to govern yourselves well then you've gotta foot the bill - no more sucking on the taxpayers' tit. That also includes building your own hospitals, schools, water/sewer and transportation infrastructure, your own airports and banking systems etc.

It's guys like chief Joe who give other FN's who don't have a hate on for whities a really bad rap

EXACTLY ! Best post on here in awhile ! Thanks HTL ! RJ

[Marc]

Keep it civil guys, it's easy enough to say maybe they should work more or look for a job if they are only making $10,000 per year. Most of us on here are privileged, not by choice but because of the color of our skin. They are trying to survive doing what they've been doing for thousands of years. It's a right for them to hunt the land and a privilege for us remember that. The government can shut down seasons for us to ensure the first nations and the echo system has enough to survive before any of the colonizers get a chance. What if they are right and everyone goes up there anyways and decimates the herd? then it get shut down longer for the privileged until such time the population sustainable again.

Most of us on here who can afford the gas to get up there to hunt, you're not starving or you'd be using the money for food instead of gambling it on gas so that you "may" get something.

Yes it is a right to hunt in BC for non - first nations, but not until such time it has been determined that there are enough numbers out there to sustain the first nations needs first as designated in the treaties. We are talking about a whole population of people up there that are constantly in the woods seeing what's going on. Has the biologist gone up in the air to get animal count? How many wolves and bears are in the area? So many factures affecting this.

If anything more pressure needs to be placed on the government to spend more of our hunting license money on management and studies to ensure we are not putting a population at risk just to raise more money for the government setting up LEH's where they know the population is unsustainable or don't know because they haven't put the money and time into the area to study and get a proper count in.

[Jagermeister]

There is no indigenous word for moose this side of the Rockies and if anyone says there is, then it is recently concocted. The first moose recorded in BC was around 1910 in the Nass river area. The next recorded moose shot was in the Meldrum creek east of the Chicotin. Yes, it was shot by a pair of native hunters who had no idea what they were killing aside that it was wild. That was 1917. It can be concluded that moose followed the non-native explorers over the great divide.
And if J/A has members subsisting on $10G yearly, then maybe J/A is not fairly sharing the funds the band is receiving from the CANADIAN TAXPAYERS of the federal and provincial governments. And let us remember that the CANADIAN TAXPAYERS solely funded the diversion around the rock slide on the Fraser above Lillooet so Joe and his band could catch some fish. That’s native gratitude for you.
I could go on.

[ACE]

It's not 'First Nations' (FN) . . . . . it's 'First Immigrants' (FI)

[REMINGTON JIM]

There is no indigenous word for moose this side of the Rockies and if anyone says there is, then it is recently concocted. The first moose recorded in BC was around 1910 in the Nass river area. The next recorded moose shot was in the Meldrum creek east of the Chicotin. Yes, it was shot by a pair of native hunters who had no idea what they were killing aside that it was wild. That was 1917. It can be concluded that moose followed the non-native explorers over the great divide.
And if J/A has members subsisting on $10G yearly, then maybe J/A is not fairly sharing the funds the band is receiving from the CANADIAN TAXPAYERS of the federal and provincial governments. And let us remember that the CANADIAN TAXPAYERS solely funded the diversion around the rock slide on the Fraser above Lillooet so Joe and his band could catch some fish. That’s native gratitude for you.
I could go on.

Another GREAT Post ! Thanks Jagermeister ! RJ