I get where you guys are coming from. But to be honest my sept hunts are mostly grouse focused and 4pts come later, I am out deer hunting but take a fair amount of grouse with my .308 because I simply love grouse meat and find them a nice way to come home with something.
i dont plan on packing it in november but I pass up too many with the .308 because of the boom factor. I packed my savage .22 and it worked with subsonics, just want a dedicated setup with a bit more “reach”.
I can always count on grouse and hare at my region 3 spots where as 4pts are few and far between…..