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    Re: Natives Sold Bear Bladders & Meat

    I have written in the past on this topic. I am asian and do hunt bears, for pepperoni, sausage and hams. I am also into the asian medicinal remedies, but possessing bear gallbladders is illegal. I have never considered keeping the bladders even though my elderly relatives have asked. To me, illegal is defined as against the law. I hope that people do not paint all asians with the same brush. Punish those who break the law regardless of nationality. There has been many media articles that have done exaltly that. Paint a general group with the same brush. Thanks. My 2 cents worth.
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    Re: Natives Sold Bear Bladders & Meat

    Hey...I get pretty pissed off with some of the anti native posts on this site. Just because a person who poaches is Native it doesn't make them any worse then your typical caucasion poacher or any other colored person who poaches or religious person etc. A poacher is a poacher is a poacher...period and regardless of skin color or race or religion they should all be charged to the fullest extent of the law. In addition, I have friends who are Native and who hunt and the two who hunt are completely by the books...in fact one of them is a 2nd year law student at UVic and the other is commissioned by the Canadian government for his carvings and art work. Both are two of the best guys I know, both of them are great hunters and they both visit this site regularly!!! If they heard the story about this guy David Stock sure it would piss them off but I'm sure it pisses them off even more and probably upsets them to hear guys "paint them all with the same brush" as Thunderstix states. Remember there are a lot of guys who visit this site who are either First Nations themselves or who have friends that are First Nations or Asian etc. It's ok to have an opinion but have a little respect at the same time. Think about the effects of your comments before you state them. Enough said!

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    Re: Natives Sold Bear Bladders & Meat

    Quote Originally Posted by Tikka7mm View Post
    Hey...I get pretty pissed off with some of the anti native posts on this site. Just because a person who poaches is Native it doesn't make them any worse then your typical caucasion poacher or any other colored person who poaches or religious person etc. A poacher is a poacher is a poacher...period and regardless of skin color or race or religion they should all be charged to the fullest extent of the law. In addition, I have friends who are Native and who hunt and the two who hunt are completely by the books...in fact one of them is a 2nd year law student at UVic and the other is commissioned by the Canadian government for his carvings and art work. Both are two of the best guys I know, both of them are great hunters and they both visit this site regularly!!! If they heard the story about this guy David Stock sure it would piss them off but I'm sure it pisses them off even more and probably upsets them to hear guys "paint them all with the same brush" as Thunderstix states. Remember there are a lot of guys who visit this site who are either First Nations themselves or who have friends that are First Nations or Asian etc. It's ok to have an opinion but have a little respect at the same time. Think about the effects of your comments before you state them. Enough said!

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    Re: Natives Sold Bear Bladders & Meat

    "A poacher is a poacher is a poacher...period and regardless of skin color or race or religion they should all be charged to the fullest extent of the law."

    And should also have to follow the law, including bag limits, seasons, ect.
    "you can have your rifle on the dashboard and ammo clenched between your teeth and that's legal."-Gatehouse

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    Re: Natives Sold Bear Bladders & Meat

    Quote Originally Posted by longwalk View Post
    so much for some of them being stewards of our environment.
    It looks like longwalk is suggesting some of them are not being stewards of our environment. If this is the case, then he is right, whoever 'them' are.

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    Re: Natives Sold Bear Bladders & Meat

    Let not turn this thread into a "race" issue please. Like was said, Poachers come in all types.
    Take a kid hunting its more rewarding than shooting an animal yourself!!

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    Re: Natives Sold Bear Bladders & Meat

    Thats a fact a poacher comes in all races .... just some get away with it. And we should not paint all natives with the same brush .

    ... so have you ever heard a native push to have a native poacher sentenced.

    if natives don`t like being painted with that brush start doing something about it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sealevel View Post
    Thats a fact a poacher comes in all races .... just some get away with it. And we should not paint all natives with the same brush .

    ... so have you ever heard a native push to have a native poacher sentenced.

    if natives don`t like being painted with that brush start doing something about it....
    I think the writer who was native stated that a poacher is a poacher and his nationality is irrelevant. He states that the person should be sentenced to the full extent of the law. Hunters are hunters and want illegal activities halted. Those that do not follow the laws should be prosecuted. This is not a racial issue, its a hunting issue. All hunters are brothers and sisters, lets stick together.
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    Re: Natives Sold Bear Bladders & Meat

    Quote Originally Posted by sealevel View Post
    Thats a fact a poacher comes in all races .... just some get away with it. And we should not paint all natives with the same brush .

    ... so have you ever heard a native push to have a native poacher sentenced.

    if natives don`t like being painted with that brush start doing something about it....
    Sea level what are you implying anyways?? That's the dumbest thing I've read on this site so far and very naive on your part at that. How the hell do you know that there hasn't been a First Nations pushing for the persecution or reprimand of another First Nations for wrong doing? Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't happen....and who cares if it does anyways! Why does a First Nations have to push to have another First Nations sentenced? THE LAW IS THE LAW REGARDLESS OF SKIN OR RACE...DON'T YOU GET IT!!!! I get a kick out of your comment...”if natives don`t like being painted with that brush start doing something about it"....so Einstein, in your brilliant opinion what should they do and how do you know they haven't already done it or tried to do it. Can you say ignorant! What have you done? It’s pretty easy to sit in front of a computer screen at home and criticize 3 generations of First Nations isn’t it? Intentional or not that’s how your comment is perceived. Furthermore, your comment is uneducated and offensive on so many levels and detracts from the issue of what this thread should be about and that is poaching in general not just First Nations who poach. Unfortunately, its ignorant comments like yours that allow for segregation and the ugly arena of racial opportunity to exist. Think before you speak. Look at the world from all angles. Remember Sea level; there are all kinds of people out there who poach not just First Nations. There are also all kinds of people out there who have friends that are First Nations; keep negative comments like the one you made here to yourself. Second, do your self a favour; practice some due diligence, educate yourself and get all the facts before you begin to comment on something you know absolutely nothing about! Just because you read something in the newspaper or see it on some website or you heard it on the news doesn’t mean that it’s always true.

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    Re: Natives Sold Bear Bladders & Meat

    Quote Originally Posted by sealevel View Post
    Thats a fact a poacher comes in all races .... just some get away with it. And we should not paint all natives with the same brush .

    ... so have you ever heard a native push to have a native poacher sentenced.

    if natives don`t like being painted with that brush start doing something about it....
    Yes, I have.

    Now put it to rest and quit the crap tossing.



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