How come BC is the only province that seems dumb enough to entertain this shit?
doesn’t seem like many if any other places in North America are tripping over their own two feet to virtue signal their own citizens into poverty and despair.
How come BC is the only province that seems dumb enough to entertain this shit?
doesn’t seem like many if any other places in North America are tripping over their own two feet to virtue signal their own citizens into poverty and despair.
Hunting the promised land
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC
..... The NDP approach: if the facts don't fit your ideology, just pretend the facts don't exist.......
The FI (first immigrants) play on 'white' collective guilt, and view themselves as forever victims. It's their 'trump card' . . . disagree with anything concerning FI, and you're immediately branded as racist.
The Federal Liberals will also play the 'trump card' to their advantage as the Conservatives seek to become government again.
If you're asserting that a small elite exercise excessive influence over the majority of us, yeah, I'm with you. It's very clear that happens. It's kind of the history of the world with some eras seeing the small elite have less control, or exercise it more wisely, and other eras when it's a shitshow.
The media is a for profit corporation, not a truth source (and yes, that includes the CBC). Again, this is well established. That doesn't mean the media is never trustworthy, but you need to be careful and read the cards on the table realistically.
If you can't trust the highest court in the land you've got bigger problems than the Lower Similkameen Indian Band, their IPCA, and truth and reconciliation. Like I said - a lot of things are going on in this thread, and distrust of the Canadian state is one of them. It is a valid thing to be upset about, but it has limited practical bearing on fish, wildlife, habitat or access to those three things. Pick your battles, right? Even if you want o fight more than one it's good to fight one at a time when you're not winning any of them (and that's where restoration of fish, wildlife, habitat and access to them is right now).
Rob Chipman
"The idea of wilderness needs no defense, it only needs defenders" - Ed Abbey
"Grown men do not need leaders" - also Ed Abbey
It all tracks back to contact. In some parts of North America Indigenous people were, in fact, conquered and title to land was extinguished. That never happened in most of BC. First Nations have made their cases, repeatedly, in Canadian courts and won.
You can describe the response to these legal victories as virtue signalling, but the fact is that Canada is a country of laws, and the government follows the laws, even when it has to be dragged kicking and screaming to do so.
Rob Chipman
"The idea of wilderness needs no defense, it only needs defenders" - Ed Abbey
"Grown men do not need leaders" - also Ed Abbey
Fair enough. Like I said, I hear where you're coming from and have to tell you, frankly, that a guy saying "I'm stressed, don't like the division, and can't see this ending well" is way more valuable to getting T&R sorted out than a guy saying "We conquered them. They need to face facts. This woke BS is getting to be too much".
1) We're all here. 2) We aren't going anywhere. 3) Someone needs to figure it out. 4) I don't have a lot of faith that Justin or John are up to the task.
If 4 is true it doesn't make 1,2 or 3 less true.
Thanks for the good wishes. When you shed some stress come back and contribute. Like I said, you're making some valid points.
Rob Chipman
"The idea of wilderness needs no defense, it only needs defenders" - Ed Abbey
"Grown men do not need leaders" - also Ed Abbey
Rob Chipman
"The idea of wilderness needs no defense, it only needs defenders" - Ed Abbey
"Grown men do not need leaders" - also Ed Abbey
You’ve clearly got a good handle on the situation, based on the above and your other posts - so I likely have little to add.
That written, the 3% to 97% (I think it’s closer to 5% to 95%) has less to do with politics and more to do with blood. The way we are trending now will have the balance of power, land, resources, etc… shifted from the non-natives (95%), to the natives (5%).
That power shift might not matter to most folks when it comes to back-country access and fish/wildlife management, but what it does to resource extraction will matter to the larger population group when it causes companies to leave in favor of greener pastures.
The LSIB IPCA declaration makes it clear that all non-LSIB owned forestry, mining, range tenure, guide outfitters, water users, and fee simple property owners days are numbered and or outlawed directly - that means commercial impacts. The people from the 95% of the population that don’t have native blood are going to see and feel direct and indirect impacts of that (and of similar declarations made by other bands in the future), regardless of their political leanings.
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If it cant be done with one shot, it shouldn't be done.
"grab large claw hammer - put against butt cheek , pry head out of ass with claws...then go back to school..."
There's no shortage of people who play the victim card. There's plenty on this thread.
On the other hand, there's no shortage of Indigenous people who reject playing the victim and instead say "Let's get 'er done". They've proven successful. They're still here, despite everything the Canadian state attempted in terms of assimilation, legislation and treaty making, and they're putting some significant wins on the board.
It's worth recognizing that reality.
As for being branded a racist I think it's a good idea to adopt the belief that what other people think of you isn't any of your business. If you do what's right then the people who matter will think we'll of you and those who don't think well of you? They don't matter. You see examples of that every single day on the TV.
Rob Chipman
"The idea of wilderness needs no defense, it only needs defenders" - Ed Abbey
"Grown men do not need leaders" - also Ed Abbey