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  1. #91
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    Re: Leh

    Quote Originally Posted by stoneramhunter View Post
    I live up to my name and this is not emotion based. As is stated i was referring to "easy access to some areas" Since you brought up driving, in regards to moose when they opened up the husky rd by sikanni the first year it was an absolute slaughter on moose and continued to be easy to bag a moose but to a lesser degree each year till we are where we are today hit and miss in the area. that' s a no brainer . All the access roads around pink mountain another area. Nevis valley another area. i could go on and on but im only referencing easy access spots. I don't pretend to have a solution but there may come a time when it will be rotating zones of hunting to give some areas a chance to recover. if not we could see on going limited entry that could very well go on for years denying a chance to some to never getting a chance to hunt moose and or other species.
    Regulated hunting with an antler restriction is not the "problem" up here. Moose are doing fine in most areas of the Peace. We don't need to go to LEH. This is pure social management.

    We already have access closures on the easy access spots. It's the slow death by a thousand cuts as the government, with a big push by the FN, has slowly closed MU's during the rut, forcing tax payer licensed hunters into smaller and smaller areas. With no rational reasons, they closed the east side of the hwy from Oct 1-15. Now we have most of the Peace closed Oct 1-15.

    You think we should add more closures???

    It is not resident hunters who impact moose in the Peace...and LEH is not going to increase or make more moose.

    Cheers

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    Ok we are in agreement dont close the hunt close the road. I can agree all day.but if resource extraction is complete it should be on the extractors to rehabiltate the land... fyi moose population on roads named disnt droo from restricted hunting it would have declined by unregulated harvest and predator travel corridors. Do some homework and reply.

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    Re: Leh

    Quote Originally Posted by IronNoggin View Post
    I will be doing just that shortly.
    The legal team is visiting the matter now.
    When they have a firm plan, they will engage.
    At that point we will need a fair bit of help.
    I cannot bear the associated costs alone.
    There have been some who have stepped up already.
    Likely a Go Fund Me route or similar...

    Stay tuned...

    Nog
    Yes, please keep us updated here, more than happy to contribute/help in any way I can. Pissing and moaning at each other on a hunting forum will accomplish nothing, we've got to stand together and take the fight to them.

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    Re: Leh

    Quote Originally Posted by walks with deer View Post
    Ok we are in agreement dont close the hunt close the road. I can agree all day.but if resource extraction is complete it should be on the extractors to rehabiltate the land... fyi moose population on roads named disnt droo from restricted hunting it would have declined by unregulated harvest and predator travel corridors. Do some homework and reply.
    Do some homework and reply??? have you been into any of theses easy access areas? I been thru all theses areas going back 50 years on my way in sheep hunting and i can assure you there are far less moose now than there were in years past. not just from predator corridors or lack of habitat when they opened it up to hunters who can drive in it was easy access to the game. I don't think you need to be a specialist in any discipline to recognize that it would have an impact. im not advocating leh or against easy access just suggesting perhaps rotating closures on some very easy access areas might be a consideration . so i guess my homework is seeing it with my own eyes over a long period of time.

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    Re: Leh

    Quote Originally Posted by Sitkaspruce View Post
    Regulated hunting with an antler restriction is not the "problem" up here. Moose are doing fine in most areas of the Peace. We don't need to go to LEH. This is pure social management.

    We already have access closures on the easy access spots. It's the slow death by a thousand cuts as the government, with a big push by the FN, has slowly closed MU's during the rut, forcing tax payer licensed hunters into smaller and smaller areas. With no rational reasons, they closed the east side of the hwy from Oct 1-15. Now we have most of the Peace closed Oct 1-15.

    You think we should add more closures???

    It is not resident hunters who impact moose in the Peace...and LEH is not going to increase or make more moose.

    Cheers

    SS
    I'm assuming you live in or around region 7. I had a ranch for many years just north of Dawson Creek . As a sheep hunter Ive been hunting northern B.C. for over 50 years pretty well all the drainage's. Im not sure what your definition of moose numbers are fine in most parts of the Peace region means but I can say with full confidence that the moose population is nowhere near what they were years ago.

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    Re: Leh

    "It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin

    "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it" - George Orwell

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    Re: Leh

    Harvest the Land... ????
    Everyone is entitled to voicing an opinion, as long as it is a learned one.

    The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who are bereft of that gift.

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    Thumbs up Re: Leh

    Quote Originally Posted by walks with deer View Post
    Ps matt you where very professional on point and educated during the liberal meeting its time to send those guys a follow up aswell.
    Good point. On it...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVNNhzkJ-UU&feature=related

    Egotistical, Self Centered, Son of a Bitch Killer that Doesn't Play Well With Others.

    Guess he got to Know me

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    Re: Leh

    Quote Originally Posted by stoneramhunter View Post
    Do some homework and reply??? have you been into any of theses easy access areas? I been thru all theses areas going back 50 years on my way in sheep hunting and i can assure you there are far less moose now than there were in years past. not just from predator corridors or lack of habitat when they opened it up to hunters who can drive in it was easy access to the game. I don't think you need to be a specialist in any discipline to recognize that it would have an impact. im not advocating leh or against easy access just suggesting perhaps rotating closures on some very easy access areas might be a consideration . so i guess my homework is seeing it with my own eyes over a long period of time.
    Moose numbers are down you bet! But its not from hunting its predators unregulated harvest and general habitat destruction. Restore habitat,knock the dogs back,quit spraying the forest,rip out some access points where unregulated harvest keeps happening...

    Fracking took water out of the area and sealed it in the ground.. reducing wetlands made quad access like a grid paper aswell as for predator traps they seeded the lines with clover causing a influcts of other ungulates causing a robust wolf population and the moose where having troubles keeping calves which is the new recruitment. I am not complaining with the elk around but moose and mule have a troubles raising young.

    Habitat restoration is the problem i have had beers with the old bioligist for the peace of 30 years spend a couple hours at the steamboat mountain pull out with the current bioligist and have followed up with phone calls...
    Across the board we need a new group like the freshwater fisheries society that is incharge of wildlife
    Promotes and protects wildlife and habitat all bioligist work for them all tags and descions through them all predator control through them.

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    Re: Leh

    Quote Originally Posted by Harvest the Land View Post
    I'm stuck in the city and cranky today.
    This just made it worse.

    Regarding Sheep and LEH, I personally warned Jesse a dozen years ago that this outcome was being sought by the likes of Festa-Bianchet and others through agenda based and biased "science". The response, " I don't care"....

    And here we are. With Festa-Bianchet holding hands with the BCWF.


    Fishy.....

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