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    Re: AHTE Reg 4 LEH proposal

    The sheep disappearing aren't just mature rams.
    I don't spot the Eve's and Lamb's as well.
    Not like I used to.

    Right there it should tell us there are other factors at play and are the real cause for concern.
    Some of these GOS area are very tough to access.
    Sure, you can get in easy enough, but the sheep can still be plenty far back enough to ever be hunted hard.
    I rarely see hunters going after sheep anymore where at one time, it got real busy back in the 80's.

    Just wish for once the ministry would start focusing on other factors rather then just managing us.
    No wonder the province and the wildlife is so F'd up at this point.
    Just another band aid solution that will still see the #'s decline.

    The Bio's and Ministry should be really proud about the work they do!!!
    IT really shows!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugle M In View Post
    ... Just wish for once the ministry would start focusing on other factors rather then just managing us.
    No wonder the province and the wildlife is so F'd up at this point.
    Just another band aid solution that will still see the #'s decline.
    BINGO!

    Show me any politico that will get into the real meat of any matter when they can simply shrug their shoulders and pick the low hanging fruit.
    If any actually exist, they are an incredibly rare species IMO.

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    Re: AHTE Reg 4 LEH proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by IronNoggin View Post
    BINGO!

    Show me any politico that will get into the real meat of any matter when they can simply shrug their shoulders and pick the low hanging fruit.
    If any actually exist, they are an incredibly rare species IMO.

    Nog
    Again many dont have a clue what goes on out there, the ministry is trying some what. A look at the sheep socitys home page
    shows some of whats happening with declining numbers.
    Having a sheep tag in your pocket well driving around looking for elk and sheep hunting are kind of 2 different things
    getting into sheep country will show and teach you more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBM View Post
    Again many dont have a clue what goes on out there, the ministry is trying some what. A look at the sheep socitys home page
    shows some of whats happening with declining numbers.
    I looked, but not sure what your reference is to. Are you referring to the position statement or the projects?

    The 4 page Gov pdf shows what figures and sightings they are using

    Having a sheep tag in your pocket well driving around looking for elk and sheep hunting are kind of 2 different things
    getting into sheep country will show and teach you more.
    More?
    do get out often? have you seen changes?
    Glad to say I have hunted Northern BC

    Simon Fraser had pretty good judgement on what he found in BC

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    Re: AHTE Reg 4 LEH proposal

    The Gov analysis paper shows they are concerned about the age structure and the inappropriate number of mature breeders
    this is also an issue it seems , as well as the overall herd size reduction
    Sheep have a different social structure in a healthy herd, older rams play a roll
    Making more ewes will take years of effort and some hard decisions, having a healthy breeding herd is easier to accomplish

    Quote Originally Posted by Bugle M In View Post
    The sheep disappearing aren't just mature rams.
    I don't spot the Eve's and Lamb's as well.
    Not like I used to.
    Glad to say I have hunted Northern BC

    Simon Fraser had pretty good judgement on what he found in BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBM View Post
    Again many dont have a clue what goes on out there, the ministry is trying some what.
    You are delusional.
    The ministry is not "trying somewhat".
    They are knee jerk reacting without the backing of science.
    And once again picking off the low hanging fruit (hunting) rather than paying any real attention ($$) towards the real causal agents involved, then identifying how to address those.

    They, and you are like a tired old broken record, constantly skipping to the same old proven fruitless beat.

    Pitiful

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    Re: AHTE Reg 4 LEH proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by high horse Hal View Post
    The Gov analysis paper shows they are concerned about the age structure and the inappropriate number of mature breeders
    this is also an issue it seems , as well as the overall herd size reduction
    Sheep have a different social structure in a healthy herd, older rams play a roll
    Making more ewes will take years of effort and some hard decisions, having a healthy breeding herd is easier to accomplish
    Yup, thats a good post right there.

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    Re: AHTE Reg 4 LEH proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by high horse Hal View Post
    The Gov analysis paper shows they are concerned about the age structure and the inappropriate number of mature breeders
    this is also an issue it seems , as well as the overall herd size reduction
    Sheep have a different social structure in a healthy herd, older rams play a roll
    Making more ewes will take years of effort and some hard decisions, having a healthy breeding herd is easier to accomplish
    One of the best posts in this thread.
    Against the message put forth, it seems the predation issue is being addressed.
    As fo disease, what can be done is being done and most likely more coming on that front.
    Habitat isn’t an overnight fix.
    I don’t think regulating hunters is the only lever being pulled…..but what do I know.

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    Re: AHTE Reg 4 LEH proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by high horse Hal View Post
    I looked, but not sure what your reference is to. Are you referring to the position statement or the projects?

    The 4 page Gov pdf shows what figures and sightings they are using

    More?
    do get out often? have you seen changes?
    in regards to sheep, decline in the WWSBC news says in the past 10 years 200 bighorn sheep have died in a narrow section of highway
    near Radium due to collisions with viechles.

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    Re: AHTE Reg 4 LEH proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by IronNoggin View Post
    You are delusional.
    The ministry is not "trying somewhat".
    They are knee jerk reacting without the backing of science.
    And once again picking off the low hanging fruit (hunting) rather than paying any real attention ($$) towards the real causal agents involved, then identifying how to address those.

    They, and you are like a tired old broken record, constantly skipping to the same old proven fruitless beat.

    Pitiful

    Nog
    Some where out today trying, to do some thing.

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