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    Re: BCWF Webinar "When does selective hunting lead to evolutionary change and what (i

    BC is easy pickings. FNs demanding and getting most everything they ask for, and the growing Antis from mostly greater Vancouver having more say than the remote residents, prime example the G Bear �� closure and it's mistruths. Based again on emotion rather than science.
    Bottom line, hunters are doomed, unless your FN.
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    Re: BCWF Webinar "When does selective hunting lead to evolutionary change and what (i

    Cats, Sheep and Goat next in the Antis agendas. Followed by the rest.
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    Re: BCWF Webinar "When does selective hunting lead to evolutionary change and what (i

    Rob,

    I had my eyes and ears on Bianchet years before he approached the Alberta government sounding an alarm that hunting was absolutely responsible for cause a harmful genetic selection in Bighorn sheep.

    When the government started to listen to him, I made Alberta's hunting organizations aware of my concerns including educating most of them as to why this person and his research was so dangerous to hunting, and scientifically void of factual conclusions. I spent many hours a day for several years on this fight. One of my hardest tasks was uniting the boards and membership of the AFGA, WSFAb, and APOS in a united front while bringing in scientists and funding to review Bianchet's data and conclusions, and produce independent research.

    In the end, "We" (the Alberta Hunting interest groups) won.
    Bianchet and his genetic harm gang lost and have now taken their anti-hunting compassionate wildlife management endeavor to B.C.

    I still have much of this history (research papers, letters, proposals) on old hard-drives.
    It will take some work for me to get up to speed, and more to educate those desiring to learn this history, but it can be done.

    The current WSFAb is pretty much void of anyone that was involved in this fight.
    I doubt that they could help very much.

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    Re: BCWF Webinar "When does selective hunting lead to evolutionary change and what (i

    So if he is trouble why is the BCWF giving him a forum to spread his bs? Enlighten me please. It sounds like Alberta had a real battle to counter his science.

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    Re: BCWF Webinar "When does selective hunting lead to evolutionary change and what (i

    Quote Originally Posted by Rackmastr View Post
    Wild Sheep Foundation Alberta put a lot of work and dealt a lot with Marco's genetic harm theory. I believe there was research funded in Wyoming that essentially debunked a lot of his theories. I'd have to do a bit more digging.

    There is some good conversations out there, but reach out to the Alberta wild sheep community and I'm sure you can get a TON of answers about your questions. I'm not in Alberta anymore nor the person to speak on it.

    Some good reading here as well:

    http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=278301

    A flashback for sure.... though the real debate was several years before this thread.


    As you can see Rob, while Bianchet was claiming that Alberta had to change its 4/5 rule to a full curl general season , that full curl would solve the hunting induced genetic harm problem, he was claiming that B.C. had to go from a full curl general season and very limited LEH because of hunter induced genetic harm....

    A snake is a snake, whether in Alberta or B.C.

    HengeveldJWM11.pdf (usherbrooke.ca)

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    Re: BCWF Webinar "When does selective hunting lead to evolutionary change and what (i

    Quote Originally Posted by HappyJack View Post
    So if he is trouble why is the BCWF giving him a forum to spread his bs? Enlighten me please. It sounds like Alberta had a real battle to counter his science.
    Sure would be a good way to screw over outfitters if you could get the full curl rule thrown out and ditch LEH’s or if an LEH season comes into play carry on with over authorizations.
    There’s probably more than one snake at play here.

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    Re: BCWF Webinar "When does selective hunting lead to evolutionary change and what (i

    Zeman retweets him regularly...
    It is well to try and journey ones road and to fight with the air.Man must die! At worst he can die a little sooner." (H Ryder Haggard)

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    Re: BCWF Webinar "When does selective hunting lead to evolutionary change and what (i

    Quote Originally Posted by horshur View Post
    Zeman retweets him regularly...
    Maybe hidden agenda by the new fed executive director?

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    Re: BCWF Webinar "When does selective hunting lead to evolutionary change and what (i

    This is a fascinating thread. When I used to have a twitter account I used to follow Jesse and that's how I learned who Bianchet was. Never quite understood why he was such a fan of the guy. He sure didn't seem to be very hunter friendly.

    Thanks for the background info WB and Rackmaster
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    Re: BCWF Webinar "When does selective hunting lead to evolutionary change and what (i

    Too bad the BCWF hadn’t scheduled a joint webinar with Marco Festa-Blanchet and our sheep and goat specialist Bill Jex.
    It would be interesting to hear Bills take on Blanchets theory and if he feels it’s a concern in BC to only shoot full curls.

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