GOS Sheep season GOING TO LEH

[high horse Hal]

thought that was the purpose of this new fancy schmancy Alliance, to hash this stuff out before it gets to reg season

[IronNoggin]

In addition to the feedback I submitted to counter the likes of LBM, I sent directed letters to my MLA, Horgan, and Conroy.
In those I reiterated the concerns I had previously noted, and added in several from the above template.
I will post any reply that might be forthcoming...

Suggest any with concerns in this matter do the same ASAP.

Nog

[Bugle M In]

Wonder if they will bring up about the sick sheep dying off last year in the east kootenays

You just answered your own "Questioning".
How is limiting hunters going to solve "sick sheep"???
Prolong their inevitable decline, yes, but these changes, "especially in R4, is not going to address the "real factors"!
Which is typical of the Government/Ministry/ Bios.

If the Ministry actually were to say, okay, we are going to revamp some critical sheep habitat, treat the sheep in those areas,
as well as cull Preds to provide them protection, then yes, I suppose i would support limiting, if not even closing the season for
up to 5 years etc, BECAUSE, they would actually have a plan to address the atual factors, and limiting hunting would help those
aids help sheep rebound.

But that's not the case.
The only plan, like always, is to just close off hunting or limit it.
Look at the entire province overall, and look where that thought process and implementation has gotten them/us.
Nowhere!

You answered you own question.

[LBM]

You just answered your own "Questioning".
How is limiting hunters going to solve "sick sheep"???
Prolong their inevitable decline, yes, but these changes, "especially in R4, is not going to address the "real factors"!
Which is typical of the Government/Ministry/ Bios.

If the Ministry actually were to say, okay, we are going to revamp some critical sheep habitat, treat the sheep in those areas,
as well as cull Preds to provide them protection, then yes, I suppose i would support limiting, if not even closing the season for
up to 5 years etc, BECAUSE, they would actually have a plan to address the atual factors, and limiting hunting would help those
aids help sheep rebound.

But that's not the case.
The only plan, like always, is to just close off hunting or limit it.
Look at the entire province overall, and look where that thought process and implementation has gotten them/us.
Nowhere!

You answered you own question.

Predators are not the issue in 4 -25 or 35 or some of the MUs or at least not the ones people think.
When wildlife numbers get to a low level all things matter.
My question was wonder if they would bring up the sick sheep in the east kootenay since disease in sheep
seemed like what the webinar was on. you answered none of that.

[rageous]

Thoughts on the webinar zoom meeting?

[Livewire322]

Thoughts on the webinar zoom meeting?

I thought it was good overall, but was left wanting more on their logic to not include rams in the treatment.

Sure, it’s great that the early data indicates their treatment of ewes and lambs works (high lamb recruitment for following years), but he said it himself, one reason the wild sheep get sick is that rams try to breed domestic sheep and then bring the M.Ovi. to the wild ewes come rut season. That would indicate a risk in the long-term for reinfection of treated herds by rams that weren’t treated. That could only be exacerbated by the restriction of ram hunting (i.e., less hunters on the ground killing rams means there are more infected rams left in the wild).

But, I must be missing something regarding the risk posed by rams, because he seemed confident that the plan was as solid as it could be.

[bearvalley]

I thought it was good overall, but was left wanting more on their logic to not include rams in the treatment.

Sure, it’s great that the early data indicates their treatment of ewes and lambs works (high lamb recruitment for following years), but he said it himself, one reason the wild sheep get sick is that rams try to breed domestic sheep and then bring the M.Ovi. to the wild ewes come rut season. That would indicate a risk in the long-term for reinfection of treated herds by rams that weren’t treated. That could only be exacerbated by the restriction of ram hunting (i.e., less hunters on the ground killing rams means there are more infected rams left in the wild).

But, I must be missing something regarding the risk posed by rams, because he seemed confident that the plan was as solid as it could be.

i agree with what you’re saying.
One existing M.Ovi carrier ram seems to be just as big a threat as one that mixes with domestics, picks up the disease and packs it to wild sheep.