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    Why such a need to kill animals.

    Why is there such a need to kill animals by so many hunters. Looking at the confiscated sheep thread and amount it happens with them.
    There is still a bit more of a season so sure more under size rams will be taken with the panic of it shutting down.
    Now the illegal elk deer, moose and other animal numbers are starting to add up. Maybe things are different now days, was always
    taught to identify your target, but seems now its shoot first check later with so many. Elk arent going to ever be a legal 6 point
    when there shot when only a 4 point.

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    Re: Why such a need to kill animals.

    I have a need to kill animals because I'm hungry and really like the taste of wild game meat and so does my family; and I really like to know where my food comes from and how that animal was living its life before I killed it. (I need to have a connection with the meat I am eating)

    I for one (and most of the hunters I know) ALWAYS check to make sure everything is legal AND that there are no folks in the background that could be in the line of fire BEFORE I take the shot.

    How come you don't have such a need to kill animals?
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    Re: Why such a need to kill animals.

    I don't think the op doesn't have a need to kill animals. It's more of a question on the "desire" or "urgency" of some folks to pull the trigger before they have confirmed that they are shooting at a legal animal. But that does bring up a question of morals or ethics in those people. At what time does it become ok to shoot first and then check out the finer details later? To me that's a poacher mentality.

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    Re: Why such a need to kill animals.

    That's a funny question to post on a hunting forum ... and I don't mean ha ha ha funny .
    You hoping for a catch & release hunting program ? Or how about just shooting creatures with a camera ?
    Not sure what kind of response you were looking for here LBM

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    Re: Why such a need to kill animals.

    Quote Originally Posted by LBM View Post
    Why is there such a need to kill animals by so many hunters. Looking at the confiscated sheep thread and amount it happens with them.
    There is still a bit more of a season so sure more under size rams will be taken with the panic of it shutting down.
    Now the illegal elk deer, moose and other animal numbers are starting to add up. Maybe things are different now days, was always
    taught to identify your target, but seems now its shoot first check later with so many. Elk arent going to ever be a legal 6 point
    when there shot when only a 4 point.
    I think a lot of this comes down to ego. Guys go out hunting and possibly spend a lot of money getting there. They have to come home with something to justify the expense. They also want to be included in the group of hunters who are successful. I can see hunting for meat, but at the end of the day, if you don't harvest anything you are surely not going to starve. Another angle that might apply here is work ethic. I have heard lots of guys state they only hunt for meat and will shoot anything that is legal that crosses their path. So they go out and shoot the first spike or fork they see. Then one day a five point steps out in front of them. They harvest that animal and proceed to brag about it like they had targeted that particular animal, instead of it actually being a lucky opportunity. So why did they not pass that animal up as their just hunting for meat. Why shoot a potential trophy animal when you just want meat? I have seen many hunters over the years who shoot the first thing they see and then complain or make the statement to selective hunters about how lucky they are shooting bigger bucks. It never dawns on these guys that hunting an older mature animal takes a lot more effort , skill and a certain degree of luck. Mature animals don't get to where they are by being stupid. They are very cautious and calculating. They have lots of experience avoiding predators whether human of animal. There are hunters out there who will never have the skill sets or ability to hunt mature game animals. I very much enjoy hunting, and have come home many times with out game, but a great experience. Putting the effort in to harvest mature game animals teaches you a lot about yourself, and helps you hone your skills. Not for everyone though.

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    Re: Why such a need to kill animals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dannybuoy View Post
    That's a funny question to post on a hunting forum ... and I don't mean ha ha ha funny .
    You hoping for a catch & release hunting program ? Or how about just shooting creatures with a camera ?
    Not sure what kind of response you were looking for here LBM
    Quit simple really why such a need by so many hunters to kill something.
    Why are short underage sheep shot, why are elk in a 6 point area being shot when they are under that size
    why are mule deer being shot as whitetails or vs versa why in a 4 point mule deer area are bucks being shot
    under that size, why are moose over the 2 point size limit being shot in the GOs
    Why is a person on a quad being shot in a moose season , why is person being shot well bugling. Why does someone
    cross a fence onto posted land to shoot something.
    Want me to give more reasons or do you understand the question now, Why such a need by so many hunters to kill something.
    Last edited by LBM; 10-10-2021 at 11:30 AM.

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    Re: Why such a need to kill animals.

    Illegally shot game numbers are used by Biologists to detirmine seasons and limits. Relax and trust the science. Unless of course your an anti vaxxer.
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    Re: Why such a need to kill animals.

    Quote Originally Posted by LBM View Post
    Quit simple really why such a need by so many hunters to kill something.
    Why are short underage sheep shot, why are elk in a 6 point area being shot when they are under that size
    why are mule deer being shot as whitetails or vs versa why in a 4 point mule deer area are bucks being shot
    under that size, why are moose over the 2 point size limit being shot in the GOs
    Why is a person on a quad being shot in a moose season , why is person being shot well bugling. Why does someone
    cross a fence onto posted land to shoot something..
    Want me to give more reasons or do you understand the question now, Why such a need by so many hunters to kill something.
    I doubt the examples you are pointing out are from a need to kill something but rather from mistake , stupidity , ignorance and probably a few more reasons
    The only time I hear of the need to kill mentality is the city folks that feel the need to kill squirrels . coyotes, bobcats , various birds "Just because"
    Wolves are fair game .... as most will never see one anyway ....

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    Re: Why such a need to kill animals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Island Idiots View Post
    Illegally shot game numbers are used by Biologists to detirmine seasons and limits. Relax and trust the science. Unless of course your an anti vaxxer.
    LOL beauty !

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    Re: Why such a need to kill animals.

    we have no data on these illegal rams to be able to draw any conclusions.
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    2. Government burden and overreach

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