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    Say Yes to Selective Fishery in BC (Chinook Salmon)

    So, saw this link and watched MP Zimmer and doing his best to help us here in BC.
    The 1 minute mark already shows the rat in the house as the deflection begins.
    Heres the link:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnjnieyhXSI

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    Re: Say Yes to Selective Fishery in BC (Chinook Salmon)

    That woman is nothing more than David Suzuki in an ugly dress ... good grief. Mr zimmer I applaud you sir. I also like the fella that gave his time to mr zimmer

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    Yes, Zimmer has definitely tried to help lead the charge from inside the political arena.
    I am not a fan of politicians but this fellow is on "our side".
    And its why i say so often that we can setup all the committees and get all the bios to support us and in the end, it wont make a
    bit of difference.
    If things are going to turn around, we need more of "us in politics".
    Right now, its way more of the "others" in there and it is showing.

    Also, here is PA's friday fishing report (i am certain Matt is fine with me posting it), but in particular, there are 2 point to watch:
    11:30 mark so as "whom not to blame right now".
    13:20 mark is "extremely important" as this pretty much is stating what the WSS is in fear of right now also and their campaign.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd7QLQZlvvU

    There is a "TREND DEVELOPING" throughout the entire outdoor sportsman world here in BC, from fishing to hunting,
    that everyone needs to RECOGNIZE.

    Just take a minute to watch those 2 timeframes, its important.

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    Sport Fishing Institute Response Letter:


    June 4, 2021

    The Honourable Bernadette Jordan, P.C., M.P.
    Minister of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard
    200 Kent Street
    Ottawa, ON K1A 0E6

    Dear Minister:

    We have been watching the proceedings of the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans (FOPO) with great interest as the committee continues to work through and discuss the State of the Pacific Salmon study. While we were interested to hear your remarks on the afternoon of June 2nd, the responses you and your staff provided to questions posed were both concerning and confusing.

    Several times during the discussion you specifically referenced a pilot or test fishery that was initially described as planned for 2021 and then as currently underway to provide you with the data necessary to allow you to determine if it is appropriate to implement a Mark Selective Fishery (MSF) for Chinook in BC. While directors and staff of the SFI have been actively involved in the SFAB process, the development of the MSF proposals, and work closely with your science and stock assessment staff in the Pacific region, no one is aware of the pilot of which you speak. We believe it is reasonable to assume that if a pilot were being implemented with the specific goal of providing information required to implement MSF across wider regions of the BC South Coast, that the SFAB and DFO staff would be aware of this pilot. We can assure you they are not.

    To our knowledge, except for the Sechelt Inlet hybrid fishery that was approved in 2021, all the Chinook retention opportunities that are in place now were implemented in 2020. By no measure could these be considered as a pilot. All the fisheries implemented in the Mainland Inlets are not MSF’s and in fact allow for retention of both marked and unmarked Chinook but with no size restriction in place for marked fish.

    The tiny Becher Bay opportunity on southern Vancouver Island is indeed a MSF, but in no way was it ever described to the SFAB as a pilot or test fishery nor would it be effective for gathering the necessary data required to support or refute the benefits of MSF.

    As a result, we are confused and concerned about what you may be referring to and how progress can be made in implementing plans for MSF going forward. We suggest that these are essential details and request that information about when and where the pilot is taking place be provided as soon as possible. While it is hard to understand how a MSF pilot could proceed without participation from the public fishery, we stand by to assist in gathering the additional data you state is necessary to move forward. Again, timing and opportunity that MSF could provide to the public fishery is critical, clarification regarding this pilot is requested so we can provide assistance.

    During your time at FOPO Committee on June 2nd you also responded to a question regarding consultation that you have met with the SFAB. This is inaccurate. While previous Ministers have met with the SFAB, the official advisory board to DFO does not seek meetings with the Minister but has traditionally been invited by the Minister so that she may gain insights and can seek advice directly from the stakeholder and advisory board. While the pandemic may have provided impediments to an in-person meeting, you are the first Minister in a long time that has not arranged a meeting with the SFAB.

    Finally, you also indicated that you are in regular consultation with stakeholders in BC on a variety of issues. We can confirm that the SFI has met with you in a stakeholder capacity previously but note that a request for a meeting to gain clarity on the recent decision and announcements regarding southern BC Chinook management remains unanswered.

    Minister, we are troubled and alarmed by your remarks on June 2nd as they indicate that there could be a serious communication break down between your regional leadership and your office. We note and agree with your statement that acknowledges that mark selective fisheries, MSF, are a good idea and look forward to their implementation as soon as possible. To that end, our intent is to ensure that you and your department make decisions based on accurate and complete information. We stand by to assist in whatever way we can.

    Sincerely,

    SPORT FISHING INSTITUTE OF BC


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    Re: Say Yes to Selective Fishery in BC (Chinook Salmon)

    ^^^^Thing is, when you lie "publicly", it can really set you up for lawsuits.
    Repeatedly she talks about "stocks of concern" and we know the runs in question and when they run.
    And thus she is basically saying she does not want to "rush it" (which we know is bs), because it involves an alarming low amount
    of Chinook, as per her statement, but, then they allow openings on the river for the FN with nets.

    If the levels are that bad, then no one should be catching anything.

    I strongly feel that the real issues is behind closed doors between the Feds and FN and the FN not wanting to lose their nets.
    Someone told me that down in the States that this is what is starting to transpire.
    Natives having to drop the nets for wheels.
    I am not sure if that is correct, but it makes me wonder what the Feds, this fat ass minister is up to here.

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    Re: Say Yes to Selective Fishery in BC (Chinook Salmon)

    That woman is a nightmare unqualified un engaged she need to step down this is absolutely crap!!!

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    Re: Say Yes to Selective Fishery in BC (Chinook Salmon)

    Does anybody on here have the computer savvy to start e petition to call for her resignation possibly with June second question period attached? This is alarming as hell and needs more coverage.

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    Re: Say Yes to Selective Fishery in BC (Chinook Salmon)

    The thing is, it is my understanding that she is a fairly smart person.
    So, either she is in fact totally unqualified for this position she is holding and is lacking knowledge in this arena and thus
    should be asked to step down/resign.

    OR, she is in fact, a long with the higher ups in the Fed Lib party working only with a particular interest group and NO ONE ELSE.
    Not what any of the were elected to do.
    You have to work for everyone, for the betterment of everyone.
    Especially the Salmon.

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    While the minister claims this is all due to "conservation", that is a blatant lie.
    Everyone well understands that THE MOST CRITICALLY ENDANGERED run of springs in the Fraser is the early timed one. The one that is in the system right now.
    The one that this same minister has let no less than SIXTEEN openings on with nets:

    https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/f...s_Previous.pdf
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVNNhzkJ-UU&feature=related

    Egotistical, Self Centered, Son of a Bitch Killer that Doesn't Play Well With Others.

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    Re: Say Yes to Selective Fishery in BC (Chinook Salmon)

    Quote Originally Posted by IronNoggin View Post
    While the minister claims this is all due to "conservation", that is a blatant lie.
    Everyone well understands that THE MOST CRITICALLY ENDANGERED run of springs in the Fraser is the early timed one. The one that is in the system right now.
    The one that this same minister has let no less than SIXTEEN openings on with nets:

    https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/f...s_Previous.pdf
    Shhhhhhh!, Nog......keep it down.
    Your down a politically incorrect road!

    Oh, hang on, wait, extinction or political correctness???
    What is actually more important!

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