Crown Land Given To Now Be FN Land

[Kill-da-wabbit]

When I think about it, we Hunters would have a better chance of bringing back the Grizzly hunt with FN than with Government

Yeah, at $30,000 a tag...

[Flyingfisher]

Yeah, at $30,000 a tag...

I think that it will all come down to money, as it always does. I wonder how much the natives are going to be charging for a moose or an elk tag? My guess is $10,000.

[Jagermeister]

Found another interesting document showing indigens claimed territories, it list most communities in BC and they band name
cnc.bc.ca/docs Indigenous Territory Guide British Columbia for the pdf
8 pages or I would just copy to here

The page does not exist. anymore? No access 404 error. Top secret behind the closed doors of the College of New Caledonia. There's a colonial name if I ever saw one!

[RugDoctor]

When I think about it, we Hunters would have a better chance of bringing back the Grizzly hunt with FN than with Government

Thinking we can partner with FN is a mistake. There’s no partnership when one “partner” wants all the spoils plus what’s to come plus future earnings, plus, plus, plus.....they’ve been conditioned to believe they have a legitimate claim to the land.....they don’t. Only the corrupt peddle that shit for their own purposes....not to help the FN....who never owned any land to cede. It’s all a scam....The land belongs to those who developed it, those who made something from nothing. The settlers. Colonizer is not a dirty word, it’s something to be proud of.

[Surrey Boy]

Thinking we can partner with FN is a mistake. There’s no partnership when one “partner” wants all the spoils plus what’s to come plus future earnings, plus, plus, plus.....they’ve been conditioned to believe they have a legitimate claim to the land.....they don’t. Only the corrupt peddle that shit for their own purposes....not to help the FN....who never owned any land to cede. It’s all a scam....The land belongs to those who developed it, those who made something from nothing. The settlers. Colonizer is not a dirty word, it’s something to be proud of.

John Locke articulated it well, but you're on par!

If you're ever in Qualicum, stop in for a beverage.

[f350ps]

Thinking we can partner with FN is a mistake. There’s no partnership when one “partner” wants all the spoils plus what’s to come plus future earnings, plus, plus, plus.....they’ve been conditioned to believe they have a legitimate claim to the land.....they don’t. Only the corrupt peddle that shit for their own purposes....not to help the FN....who never owned any land to cede. It’s all a scam....The land belongs to those who developed it, those who made something from nothing. The settlers. Colonizer is not a dirty word, it’s something to be proud of.

This is a first for me, I totally agree with you! If it wasn’t for the Europeans the FN’s would probably still be living in teepees and killing each other and stealing the other tribes women!! K

[RugDoctor]

John Locke articulated it well, but you're on par!

If you're ever in Qualicum, stop in for a beverage.

I have family there and friends near there....as long as your offer is open, you can bet I’ll take you up on it.

[RugDoctor]

This is a first for me, I totally agree with you! If it wasn’t for the Europeans the FN’s would probably still be living in teepees and killing each other and stealing the other tribes women!! K

I’m willing to bet we agree on more than we disagree on. People tend to get passionate (and not so “passive” aggressive) when the disagree on political topics and especially on line.....driving wedges where there could otherwise be amicable disagreements or positive/productive debates.

[adriaticum]

"Cede" means to give up control or power.

In BC/Canadian/British law when you transfer ownership (control) of land you do specific acts to make the transfer of ownership legal.

If you own real estate in BC and you sell it you've essentially "ceded" it. If someone comes along and just claims your land the government won't recognize the claim of the new person, but will recognize your title.

In Canada the Crown recognized Indigenous title at least as far back as 1763. You can argue that the Royal Proclamation of 1763 *didn't* do that, but the Supreme Court of Canada disagrees. I could be wrong, but as far was I understand it all the land claims that are settled through the courts trace it all back to 1763.

That was more of a rhetorical question.
Ceeded, unceeded doesn't mean anything.
So what if the land is ceeded, or unceeded.
Does that give FN any moral highground, or does it give European settlers any moral high ground?
Land that was ceeded was ceeded under the pain of death.
And land that wasn't ceeded, nobody really cared to ceed it, because they assumed the rule of the whole territory.
The whole idea is stupid.

People need to wake up to the unscrupulous nature of government.

[wildcatter]

Thinking we can partner with FN is a mistake. There’s no partnership when one “partner” wants all the spoils plus what’s to come plus future earnings, plus, plus, plus.....they’ve been conditioned to believe they have a legitimate claim to the land.....they don’t. Only the corrupt peddle that shit for their own purposes....not to help the FN....who never owned any land to cede. It’s all a scam....The land belongs to those who developed it, those who made something from nothing. The settlers. Colonizer is not a dirty word, it’s something to be proud of.

You got that spot on!
I wish everybody would see this for what it is - EXTORTION! and nobody have the balls to say anything, that includes the impotent BC government.
Always reconciliation comes up in the discussion, well there will be no reconciliation, rather confrontation and it will be ugly.
So 3.5-4% of the total population wants the whole area of BC which is about the size of France, Germany and the Neterlands combined.
There are people who own large tracts of land, so are they going to be forced off of their land?
I only got a small property but I'll be damned if hand it over to them!