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    Re: John Horgan - Hunting of Wolves

    Unfortunately many of the wounds that tarnish the image of hunting are self-inflicted. The combative, inflammatory language some hunters use on social media is intended to challenge or provoke people who question the validity of a hunt. As a consequence, we lose opportunities to rationally and respectfully educate the non-hunting public.
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    I think we need to use social media for our advantage. When tourist observing grizzly bears see a boar disembowel a cub they scream for someone to kill it. Real life scenes like these with wolves doing their worst will sway the masses. We need to educate the public and the government. IMO
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    Re: John Horgan - Hunting of Wolves

    Quote Originally Posted by Blueback2014 View Post
    [I wonder how the cappuccino sucking condo dwellers would react to photos of wolves eating animals while they are still alive. Seeing a deer trying to stand with its guts hanging out. Yes such a sweet gentle cuddly animal . toQUOTE=3than;2232465]Social media is a killer for hunters/trappers especially when the "kill em all" type attitude is being shown to people. It definitely doesn't make hunters/trappers look good.
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    Maybe we need to get more footage of stuff like this out on the social media sites... for comparison and shot of reality...

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    Re: John Horgan - Hunting of Wolves

    Quote Originally Posted by Sitkaspruce View Post
    The wolf kill is being held up in court......by a group who had never done a thing for wildlife.

    https://pacificwild.org/were-taking-...ment-to-court/

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    the wolf cull is going ahead, there has been changes to the wildlife act recently to allow arial gunning.

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    Re: John Horgan - Hunting of Wolves

    Quote Originally Posted by Blueback2014 View Post
    [I wonder how the cappuccino sucking condo dwellers would react to photos of wolves eating animals while they are still alive. Seeing a deer trying to stand with its guts hanging out. Yes such a sweet gentle cuddly animal . toQUOTE=3than;2232465]Social media is a killer for hunters/trappers especially when the "kill em all" type attitude is being shown to people. It definitely doesn't make hunters/trappers look good.
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    While I understand your passion, enthusiasm and frustration, you gotta be careful what you say to the cappuccino sucking condo dwellers. They are the main audience of our Government and the ones who's wishes will be responded to. We as hunters are in the minority, like it or not. Part of the problem we face as hunters is people among us who are not very articulate or well suited to speak on these issues. They let testosterone and anger rule their narrative, instead of a good political narrative and a reasoned response. Best to let those on are side who speak well talk for us. Doing the shock and awe campaign on the condo dwellers will just turn them off, and then you have lost their attention. They will write you off as red necks and be done with you.

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    Question Re: John Horgan - Hunting of Wolves

    So... Horgan is once again pissing you off?
    Good.
    Bloody GOOD in fact!
    Maybe, just maybe that will be the lever to get some of you off your asses and do something about it!

    In a related post on another Forum, I was pm'd and asked my opinion of the apathy among our hunting Community.
    Here's my public response:

    I wrote a reply to a pm recently that was centered on these matters...
    Not going to id just whom it was from.
    Thought about it a spell, but decided I simply want this off my chest...


    "While I am neither shocked nor surprised, I am more than dismayed.
    The lack of attention and focus will be our downfall.
    Apathy has always been the greatest single weapon working against us.
    Unfortunately that is now counted on explicitly by all of our enemies.
    And our side continues to munch popcorn and sit on their collective asses.
    Some of them deserve what is coming...

    Ticked - Matt"

    Still ticked today.
    Information was posted on multiple sites.
    Only interest it really gained was the usual dogfight on Gun Nutz.
    Perhaps all of 3 of 4 noted they were going to submit counter letters to those listed.


    So, is this latest from Horgan enough catalyst for any of you to write a letter or two?
    Or are you all simply content to continue to sit on your asses munching popcorn, and complaining to The Choir?

    Wondering...
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    Re: John Horgan - Hunting of Wolves

    Quote Originally Posted by 325 View Post
    Unfortunately many of the wounds that tarnish the image of hunting are self-inflicted. The combative, inflammatory language some hunters use on social media is intended to challenge or provoke people who question the validity of a hunt. As a consequence, we lose opportunities to rationally and respectfully educate the non-hunting public.


    Wrong.
    For decades before social media and internet people were "respectfully educating" the public about hunting. And we lost opportunities.
    Now people are using "inflammatory language". We lost opportunities.
    So we lose opportunities regardless of what we do.

    It's called Stockholm syndrome. When you beat someone senseless and they believe you are doing it for their benefit.
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    Yeah the hunting culture war has been lost in Canada...If I made a living off the average middle class hunter I would be looking at a career change...maybe this is why BCWF focuses so much on habitat..they see the writing on the wall for hunting...
    Any society that will give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.B.F. Government is not the solution to our problem, it is the problem. R.R. I don't think that you have any insight whatsoever into your capacity for good until you have some well-developed insight into your capacity for evil. J.P. Sometimes you have to pick the gun up to put the gun down. M.X. Its not the right time to be sober, the idiots are taking over. Fat Mike

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    Re: John Horgan - Hunting of Wolves

    Picture this, a campaign style poster. On the left side a picture of a wolf with the caption "This is the face of a baby killer".

    On the right side a picture of a wolf pack covered in blood feeding on a moose/caribou calf.

    Story under photo:

    "Each year scenes like this play out across BC as an unchecked Wolf population expansion decimates the populations of BC's Ungulates. The increasing Wolf populations are expanding into new areas using the vast networks of resource roads built in support of industry. As Ungulate populations fall this scene will begin to play out in your communities when Wolves, finding little food left in our forests, begin preying on other available food supplies such as family pets and children. Please support the Wolf population correction project"

    (Can't say Wolf Cull people lose their shit).

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    Re: John Horgan - Hunting of Wolves

    Vld 43,While I understand your passion, enthusiasm and frustration, you gotta be careful what you say to the cappuccino sucking condo dwellers//%%hey i know many really good hunters living in condos,,,dont paint,them all with same brush. ,,,

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