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    TOMORROW!

    2020 SFI Annual Policy Conference Online Webinar Series

    Next session on November 20 Recovery of Fish and Fisheries in an Era of Rebuilding
    For the first time, the SFI is hosting a series of virtual discussions intended to seek pathways for recovery of salmon stocks and predictable opportunity and reliable access for BCs public fishery. Attendance is free but you must register for each session in advance, links to session registration are below. Session will be approximately 90 120 minutes long, with an audience question and answer period following each presentation or speaker, and will cover topics within this years theme, Charting a Predictable Path for Salmon and BCs Public Fishery.

    Ask Questions

    Questions can be asked following each speaker using a free, simple tool called sli.do or slido.com. Once each session begins access another web page or use your phone to go to slido.com and enter the session code in the participant area. On November 13th the code is: #RECOVERYPLANS. As the chat function in the Zoom webinar will be disabled, please ask and vote on questions posed through sli.do.

    While a new approach and virtual in 2020, this event has become a key forum where elected officials, public servants and those in the sport fishing industry can meet and share their perspectives on trends, innovations and issues facing BCs public fishery.

    Attendance is free but you must register in advance for each session.

    SFI Site: https://sportfishing.bc.ca/news/2020...cy-conference/

    Registration: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/regi...QIa-_G_R9Kcorw
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    Arrow Re: Next SFI Webinar Recovery of Fish and Fisheries in an Era of Rebuilding

    Another interesting conference.

    The initial presentation by PSF was as expected, and does show the level of interest outside of government at attempting a rebuilding of our precious salmon stocks. Kudos for those efforts!

    DFO's Niel Davis was all Party Line.

    A sustained and focused reference to continued Management By Restriction.
    Nothing beyond lip service to what he termed "a positive working relationship" with the Recreational Sector.
    Noting the damn near singular channel of "consultations" with the Rec Sec was effective and working well. (Wonder what dream world he is living in?)
    Numerous references to "Reconciliation" and basically allowing that is taking precedence over most other concerns.
    When I braced him regarding the IFMP from PBPS, he openly and repeatedly lied.

    First, he suggested the Department had countered with a series of questions and concerns regarding the proposal, and were awaiting further input. Bull. That occurred almost 2 years ago now, and were directly and succinctly answered by Dr. Carl Walters.

    Second: Despite numerous studies and conclusions to the opposite, he openly denied the sea lion and seal populations have become "over populated". Instead he suggested they are simply "approaching historic levels" Mike Drop. Every marine mammal scientist in the world openly gasped at that gaff.

    Third: He openly denied that these increased populations have any significant impacts on salmon populations, and that a numbers reduction would not result in any perceivable gains in salmon recoveries. This is in direct contrast to the best scientific minds and research available. Oddly enough, another whose only title is "mister" openly challenges many whose title are Doctor, Biologist, Senior Researcher and more.

    Mr. Davis comes across as a fellow desperately afraid of losing his employment, and sticking to the erroneous party line tooth and nail as directed from Ottawa.

    Wilf Ludke was competent, focused, and explained well the role of stock assessment and more in the overall picture.

    Diana Dobson was quite eloquent, and somewhat critical of her own department's actions.

    I found her note that an "Internal Change", and a "Cultural Change" within the department were both required and long overdue if we are to see our way forward out of the current quagmire as right to the point.
    Kudos Gal!
    Nailed it.
    I am looking forward to the next when Terry Beech will be in the spotlight.

    Should be at least as informing & entertaining as today was...
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    Final Session TOMORROW Folks!!


    The final session of the 2020 SFI Conference Webinar series will provide an overview of the previous sessions and a collaborative vision to support charting a path for salmon and access to BC's Public Fishery.


    Speakers:


    Rob Alcock - President SFI


    Terry Beech - Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Fisheries & Oceans


    Andrew Thompson - DFO Regional Director Fisheries management


    David Didluck - DFO Regional Director Reconciliation and Partnerships


    Dan Baxter - Interim CEO BC Chamber of Commerce


    Walt Judas- CEO Tourism Industry Association of BC


    Website: https://sportfishing.bc.ca/news/2020...cy-conference/


    Registration: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/regi...S-i3yps28uyIOg


    Given the "who's" involved, this is going to be a very interesting show!


    See You There!
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    Another Interesting Performance...

    Here are the Cole's Notes:

    Beech, although noting he recognized the issues, was pretty much full of platitudes. It very much felt like he was reading from a script designed by their team to be all Motherhood and Apple Pie.

    He presented himself rather well though, citing his involvement at many levels, his background, and the fact that he damn near landed a Tyee in Campbell River last year. Desperate and vain attempt at being One Of The Boys IMHO.

    Paid basic lip service to stock rebuilding, while managing not to commit to anything whatsoever. Typical government gobbledygook speak.

    In fact, beyond his acknowledging problems exist, I felt his presentation was largely a waste of time.

    Did not participate in the Question period, and wandered off.

    Andrew Thompson

    First comment: Anyone who understands anything about body language / facial expressions immediately understood this man was being confrontational from the very outset. Bordering on angry at times.

    Started off with the usual government issue platitudes, reading from the same script as Beech IMO.

    He did note the relationship between the Department and the SFAB / SFI as a "highbar" noting "deep consideration of advice" from these entities where opportunity issues were concerned. Reading from a rather different script than anyone else involved from what I can determine.

    When addressing the Salmon Allocation Policy under development, he bent over backwards to repeatedly cite the role of FN's in that process, and that the Department is quite focused on Reconciliation. In terms of non-FN organizations, he noted they are "trying to work with the SFAB", while "recognizing the need for change" in that relationship. He did manage to mutter something about new staff being brought online in order to further the latter...

    Short lip service paid to actual stock rebuilding, with the saw-off that nothing "concrete" is apparently on the table just now in that regard.

    He went on to defend yet another MSF study, but suggested that would be "mostly internal".

    In the question period when braced on the closures of note wherein the impact rate on Fraser stocks of concern were recognized as 0.05% he countered with "we can spare very little". Then noted in follow up that FSC takes priority over all others...

    Addressing my question regarding actual stock rebuilding programs and projects, he stated "we are not where I want to be", but we "are starting" after noting the reason they are starting is that they are being forced to via the SARA implications. Sawed off with "There is more work to be done".

    In short, pretty much a confirmation of what we already understood, and therefore not a hell of a lot more than another waste of time.

    David Didluck

    As expected from one heading up the Department's new Reconciliation wing, he focused largely on UNDRIP, noted that new Federal Legislation will be coming shortly in that regard from the minority Trudeau government, and that the Department WILL "firmly align with that".

    Citing "conservation" as the "highest priority" he went on to speak volumes regarding "building relationships" with an obvious focus & bias on FN's first and foremost.

    He did note his wing's involvement with the Salmon Allocation Policy, stating "we are working on it". Did not define just who that "we" is...

    In sawing off, he stated that the entire issue of Reconciliation is "hellishly complicated".

    In the Question period he replied to the query just "who" represents us (rec anglers) at the table when the negotiations are between the Feds & FN's. He noted there would always be "conflicting interests", that the government was there to "represent all views" (yeah... Right) and sawed off with "We have to do a better job". No $hit Sherlock.

    Addressing my concern that the term "Reconciliation" has been and is replacing that of Conservation, he immediately noted that the FN's were in full outcry over not getting "sufficient FSC fish for their needs". While he stammered to indicate just how conservation concerns are being met, he did note that this is an issue "not easily discussed with FN's" and there exists "no clear answer".

    Didluck appeared to me to be a fellow obsessed with the sound of his own voice. He spoke great volumes, while managing to say but very little. Must be a government trait worthy of recognition and promotion to section heads or better it seems.

    He culminated with the advice "You have to come and talk to us" and "there is always ways to find improvement". Right...

    Dan Baxter did pretty much a bang up job of describing the social and economic importance of the BC public fishery. He was well organized, to the point, with no baffle-gab involved.

    He noted that the "Protection of fishery and social values of the public fishery" had recently been written right into the mandate of the BC Chamber of Commerce.

    Mr. Baxter finished with a genuine offer of continuing support.

    This fellow is obviously in our court.

    Walt Judas focused chiefly upon the negative effects and impacts the pandemic has had on the Tourism Industry as a whole.

    With regard to the public fishery, he noted that he had "attempted to initiate conversations at the federal level", but with nothing to follow on that one can assume he was ignored as this government is wont to do when the message isn't to their liking.

    He did note and saw off with the message they understand, they are willing to help, and they are going to "pick up these issues again" in the next short while.

    Another in our court.

    So, I found the Conference to pretty much as I expected. Platitudes, condescension from government, the further "justification" of Reconciliation and why we matter obviously a bit further down the totem pole than they do.

    Still worth taking in simply to understand the prevailing mindset.

    I suspect the series will be available for review soon. When it is, I will post.

    Cheers,
    Nog
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    The Session & Presentation links are up for your viewing pleasure:

    https://sportfishing.bc.ca/news/2020...cy-conference/

    Cheers - Nog
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    Re: Next SFI Webinar Recovery of Fish and Fisheries in an Era of Rebuilding

    thank you for posting that, I was only able to watch the first 2 sessions, will have to catchup on the last 2 tonight

    Dr Walters presentation was quite interesting...I was screenshotting and taking notes as he went through it, and look at that, got the full presentation up there as well
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    Re: Next SFI Webinar Recovery of Fish and Fisheries in an Era of Rebuilding

    Quote Originally Posted by BRvalley View Post
    thank you for posting that...

    Dr Walters presentation was quite interesting...
    You are quite welcome. I wish more would get "interested" enough to pay attention to such important matters!

    Carl was the Star of the Show all the way around IMO.
    No BS. Just the facts Mam, and a rather pointed way forward.

    The DFO personnel (beyond Luedke and Dobson who did a rather outstanding job in comparison) were basically a waste of time - again my opinion.
    Simply touting the government line under these conditions is no longer acceptable whatsoever.

    Cheers & Enjoy,
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