I have a kuiu 7000 and 3200. I had the 1850 for day gear and it was too small if you are packing any amount of spare clothing. I looked at other options and felt the kuiu was either lighter or better priced. I’ve hauled heavy meat loads just fine with the 1850 and 3000 but it is not as good as a heavier pack like my Tatonka or the older Kifaru my friend uses. However the Kuiu is way lighter which I appreciate when I’m carrying it every day for a week or more.