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    Urgent notice to bc hunters

    Posted online, confirmed by a few other CORE examiners.


    *URGENT NOTICE TO BC HUNTERS:


    The new hunting CORE Manual is showing the British Columbia Government's possible intent to abolish publicly accessible hunting lands by changing the definition of land titles across the province to “Private” and “First Nations Treaty Land” only. A webinar meeting, hosted by a Provincial moderator, was held on June 30th, 2020 to prompt questions that CORE Instructors had regarding the new “Indigenous Chapter.” The intent behind this meeting was to provide a medium for instructors to ask questions, most of which were in regards to what this new chapter indicates about the future of land titles in the province, and how according to the current hunting regulations, the material that would be taught in the manual would be factually incorrect. The following are quotes from the indigenous chapter of the new CORE manual: "With few exceptions, wherever you hunt in B.C., you will be hunting on the traditional territory or treaty lands of one or several Indigenous Nations..." and “Hunting on First Nation Reserves or Treaty lands, is a privilege and not a right. Permission is required." I spoke with an individual who had attended this webinar, and from their perspective it appeared to be quite clear that the First Nation representatives present were fully aware of the implications of the previously mentioned quotes. They stated that permission would have to be granted on an individual basis; a potential hunter would have to go onto the reservation of the First Nation peoples who owned the land that he/she wanted to hunt, in order to ask their permission to hunt there. That, according to the 2020 - 2022 synopsis, is incorrect. In the notes taken by these instructors, it is also mentioned that First Nations Peoples’ applications for TLE (Treaty Land Entitlement) have been submitted to the Provincial Government. One quote from a CORE instructor stated “many of these TLE requests would [if approved] effectively block public access to the back country.” That same instructor reiterated that “the rewrite of the CORE manual made it seem like only one ethnic group in British Columbia is concerned about conservation.” There are other concerns that CORE instructors have with the newly published manual, but it appears as though our government is more inclined to use their time pandering to First Nations Peoples instead of addressing the real world implications of this language, or the clear inconsistencies between the Hunting Synopsis and the CORE manual. The manual, I have on good authority, has ALREADY been printed, despite fact that there have been applications, but no approvals for TLE as of yet. This misinformation has troubling implications; the CORE Manual is presented as a first resource to inexperienced and often naive individuals who are taking the CORE program as a means to educate themselves. Furthermore, the discrepancy between the two publications suggests that either the BC Provincial Government is hiding something about the future of access to huntable lands, or these particular First Nations Peoples being consulted are openly pushing their own agenda.

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    Don't tell you I didn't warn you this is coming, It ties into everything else I BI*@% about all the time, having to do with the anti-western "church of woke social justice" revolution forming, the ideologues who've taken control of education, media, local government, school boards....ect


    The way they think, their ideology that's spreading will ABSOLUTELY lead to policy like this, and WORSE.


    They are being taught to be anti-western, consumed with guilt, to see themselves and us as enemies and obstacles to their "work" They will GLADLY hand EVERYTHING over, with NO regard for us and how it impacts the majority living here paying taxes.

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    Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters

    does anyone think now that we have lost out on the UN seat things might change again?

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    Thanks for this post, Sirloin. It is going to be a very interesting learning curve going forward. I wish I were more up to speed on this whole issue (not just the CORE chapter, but the rest of the issue as well) but it is clear what direction we're going. This will take center stage for hunters, I think, and we'll have to be careful as it can be very divisive (in fact it already is for a lot of people involved). Hunters are going to have to be smart about how they act and talk on this subject, as the 2 really simple options are 1) roll over and take what we are given or 2) get marginalized as stupid sociopathic rednecks - we don't want 1, and if we get labelled as 2 we'll end up screwed that way too.
    Rob Chipman
    "The idea of wilderness needs no defense, it only needs defenders" - Ed Abbey

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    Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters

    Quote Originally Posted by wideopenthrottle View Post
    does anyone think now that we have lost out on the UN seat things might change again?
    This is provincial. The bc ndp is the first province to commit to UNDRIP and adhere to UN principles.
    This is just a start. Hang on...

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    Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters

    I feel bad for all you folks who own land, homes or businesses in BC... you guys are about to get a rude wake up call over the next few years.
    Proud member of the Second Nations community.

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    Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters

    So I'm a little confused with this. Are they trying to get rid of all crown land or specific crown land near reserves?

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    Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters

    Quote Originally Posted by bruce44 View Post
    So I'm a little confused with this. Are they trying to get rid of all crown land or specific crown land near reserves?
    its for what is coming... there are dozens of treaty agreements in the works. finishing very soon. they are handing massive chunks of land under the jurisdiction of consolidated Indian bands, and with the removal of the indian act and UNDRIP they will be acting as their own "nations" ...with ownership over wildlife and natural reasources. take a look at the regs for the chilcotin. thats what most of the province will look like. The government already bought up a ton of empty lots in the backcountry that were for sale. eventually it will cover almost everything.

    some green activists see it as their chance to keep development and humans out. Others are anti western and wish to turn back the clock from white guilt. others working for global UN interests pushing people to urban centers only. Take a look at UN Wildlands project.

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    They are priming a shift in perception for new hunters. What to expect, expect that FN are in control and if you want to hunt you go through them. Eventually it will be the norm. Remember elephant hill morel season? the government gave them training wheels to run the show, and demand payment, on public land they and gov now call ""traditional territory" soon treaty lands. its a gradual process not overnight.

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    Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirloin View Post
    its for what is coming... there are dozens of treaty agreements in the works. finishing very soon. they are handing massive chunks of land under the jurisdiction of consolidated Indian bands, and with the removal of the indian act and UNDRIP they will be acting as their own "nations" ...with ownership over wildlife and natural reasources. take a look at the regs for the chilcotin. thats what most of the province will look like. The government already bought up a ton of empty lots in the backcountry that were for sale. eventually it will cover almost everything.

    some green activists see it as their chance to keep development and humans out. Others are anti western and wish to turn back the clock from white guilt. others working for global UN interests pushing people to urban centers only. Take a look at UN Wildlands project.
    Sure, on one condition. My tax dollars don't go to maintaining the animal populations once they are hunted out from over harvesting.

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    Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters

    A lot of hunters are in complete denial "No way! that would never happen!"

    take a look at some of the treaty agreements, self government and authority over resources and wildlife going on...there are a lot...

    http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showth...hway-Agreement

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