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    old enough to know what we have lost

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    Re: old enough to know what we have lost

    Excellent article!
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    Re: old enough to know what we have lost

    Won't open for me?

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    Re: old enough to know what we have lost

    Excellent article!

    We need to end most if not all commercial fisheries, especially the ones that export fish.
    Forestry has to be reworked.
    Or fish will be done
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    Re: old enough to know what we have lost

    Quote Originally Posted by Leaseman View Post
    Won't open for me?
    Remove the spaces in the link..

    Very good and spot on. I dont see any improvement coming under the current management structure with DFO and MNR.
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    ht tps://www.spreaker.com/show/the_blue_fish_radio_show

    good comments on how small business and tourism creates more economic value than the big lumber farmers
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    Re: old enough to know what we have lost

    I don't like it but maybe this is the new way forward, and we need to build partnerships

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    Re: old enough to know what we have lost

    Quote Originally Posted by adriaticum View Post
    Excellent article!

    We need to end most if not all commercial fisheries, especially the ones that export fish.
    Forestry has to be reworked.
    Or fish will be done
    Any ideas of steps to take?
    One I had was to simply increase the size of riparian zones. Change a 30 m. 'leave' to 60 or 80 m., and consider the extra protection offered to all species and waterway improvement.
    Baby steps
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    Re: old enough to know what we have lost

    Quote Originally Posted by boxhitch View Post
    Any ideas of steps to take?
    One I had was to simply increase the size of riparian zones. Change a 30 m. 'leave' to 60 or 80 m., and consider the extra protection offered to all species and waterway improvement.
    Baby steps

    That is a big question.
    If I could get my wish list it would be huge but some things are:
    There would be no indiscriminate logging where they clean off the whole mountain sides anywhere in BC.
    Particularly in coastal BC anywhere close to salmon bearing streams. Logging even if it's kilometres away from streams still affects them because of the way it holds the snow pack, erosion.
    The whole practice of mono culture in forestry is also a bad practice. It's done just because it's profitable.
    We need old growth forest. We need to leave more areas completely intact.
    Not just for the fish.
    We need deciduous trees among the conifers.
    We need to shut the commercial fisheries for export down.
    These herring roe, chum roe fisheries are devastating.
    They count the numbers of fish that return not because they want to conserve them, but because they want to know how many they can harvest.
    We need to implement breaks in watersheds for say 5 years. We leave them alone. No fishing.
    We need to be better organized at rebuilding watersheds and estuaries. People want to help, they just don't know how and where.
    We need to rethink power generation in salmon bearing watersheds.
    Kill those run of the river power plants that don't really do jack.
    We need to rethink urbanization. We don't have to pack everyone in one tin can.
    List goes on.
    Its all connected.
    The problem is no one thing will do anything significant, but a little bit of a lot of things can make an impact.
    They try to change one thing and when it doesn't do anything they revert back thinking it's not helping.
    Nobody is looking at the big picture.
    Science is used too often to destroy us. Science is not always right, it's in fact mostly wrong.
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    Re: old enough to know what we have lost

    Good luck the logging, fishing lobbyist have way more money and the ear of the Gov.. I totally agree and have been saying it for years,let’s start with removing all nets from our oceans and rivers.. Sadly won’t ever happen..

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