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    SOMASS SOCKEYE BULLETIN # 1 – 2020 Date: May 29, 2020

    Somass Sockeye Stock Assessment Update Pre-season forecast: Somass (Great Central and Sproat) – 169,000 Henderson Lake sockeye outlook < 15,000 Escapement to May 23: Stamp: 10 Sproat: 900 Total: 910 Test

    Fishery:

    Seine vessel testing June 8th - 10th

    First in-season re-forecast: June 25th

    Catch Estimate: 0

    Somass First Nations – 0

    Maa-nulth First Nations – 0

    Area D Gillnet – 0

    Area B Seine - 0 Recreational – 0

    NEXT WEEK’S FISHING PLANS:

    All Fishing plans are subject to change depending on weekly meetings.

    First Nations
    Hupacasath & Tseshaht – Sockeye FSC closed, EO - closed.
    Maa-nulth – Sockeye FSC closed

    Commercial
    Area D Gillnet – closed.
    Area B Seine – closed.

    Recreational
    Sockeye closed

    Upcoming : As a precaution to prevent incidental mortality of released Sockeye a full finfish closure to all sectors is expected to be implemented shortly. The area to be closed is from the tidal section of the Somass River at Paper Mill Dam downstream into the inlet and south to Hocking Point. This measure and any future changes will be announced in Fishery Notices and this bulletin.

    For more info please call the Port Alberni DFO office at 250 720 4440
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    Re: Somas Sockeye Bulletin

    Makes me wonder if publishing these numbers is doing the fish any favours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adriaticum View Post
    Makes me wonder if publishing these numbers is doing the fish any favours.
    That makes about as much "sense" as the "management" regime that got them to where they are today...

    Nog
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    Re: Somas Sockeye Bulletin

    Quote Originally Posted by adriaticum View Post
    Makes me wonder if publishing these numbers is doing the fish any favours.
    Publishing numbers of returning salmon to terminal areas is standard procedure.

    DFO does it for all areas.
    Last edited by MichelD; 06-02-2020 at 01:05 PM.

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    Re: Somas Sockeye Bulletin

    Quote Originally Posted by adriaticum View Post
    Makes me wonder if publishing these numbers is doing the fish any favours.

    You ought to see the in-season Fraser River reports from the Pacific Salmon Commission.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IronNoggin View Post
    That makes about as much "sense" as the "management" regime that got them to where they are today...

    Nog

    Yeah, in my opinion it's a problem.
    When they publish data of any salmon recovery, commercial fisheries immediately jump on the run to beat it back.
    Everyone is watching these numbers and jumping on them as soon as they show any sign of recovery.
    There is a reason why our fisheries can't recover.
    Population pressures, commercial fisheries etc...
    We won't let them.
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    Re: Somas Sockeye Bulletin

    Quote Originally Posted by adriaticum View Post
    Yeah, in my opinion it's a problem.
    When they publish data of any salmon recovery, commercial fisheries immediately jump on the run to beat it back.
    Everyone is watching these numbers and jumping on them as soon as they show any sign of recovery.
    There is a reason why our fisheries can't recover.
    Population pressures, commercial fisheries etc...
    We won't let them.

    If you are that uninformed you ought to do some studying

    https://www.psc.org/publications/fra...eekly-reports/





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    Quote Originally Posted by adriaticum View Post
    Yeah, in my opinion it's a problem.
    Totally Delusional, and especially so in this particular case.

    What these numbers are indicating is the near COLLAPSE of the Somas sockeye run, following a few years of "normal" abundance.
    There are a host of reasons for this, all unrelated to your uninformed "opinion".
    At this point, all sectors are at the table, and all sectors are standing firm in their position that NO-ONE should or will be fishing this run this year.

    Try and keep up here...

    SOMASS SOCKEYE BULLETIN # 2 – 2020 Date: June 4, 2020

    Somass Sockeye Stock Assessment Update

    Pre-season forecast: Somass (Great Central and Sproat) – 169,000 Henderson Lake sockeye outlook < 15,000

    Escapement to June 2: Stamp: 250 Sproat: 2028 Total: 2278

    Test Fishery: Seine vessel testing June 8th - 10th

    First in-season re-forecast: June 25th

    Catch Estimate: 0 Somass First Nations – 0 Maa-nulth First Nations – 0 Area D Gillnet – 0 Area B Seine - 0 Recreational – 0

    NEXT WEEK’S FISHING PLANS:

    All Fishing plans are subject to change depending on weekly meetings.

    First Nations
    Hupacasath & Tseshaht – Sockeye FSC closed, EO - closed.
    Maa-nulth – Sockeye Treaty closed

    Commercial
    Area D Gillnet – closed.
    Area B Seine – closed.

    Recreational
    Sockeye closed

    New Measures

    Due to lower than expected escapement of Sockeye the following areas will be closed to fishing for finfish effective 00:01h June 4, 2020 until midnight July 14, 2020:

    Portions of subarea 23-1 and subarea 23-2 from the tidal boundary signs at Paper Mill Dam in the Somass River then downstream south into the Inlet to Hocking Point light. Portions of the Freshwater section of the Somass River Region 1 from Somass Park to Paper Mill Dam. See Fishery Notices links below.

    FN 506 Finfish Closure upper Alberni Inlet
    FN 505 Portion of the freshwater section of the Somass River closed to fishing for salmon

    The above management measures may change on short notice depending on in-season information.

    For more info please call the Port Alberni DFO office at 250 720 4440
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    Re: Somas Sockeye Bulletin

    Quote Originally Posted by adriaticum View Post
    Yeah, in my opinion it's a problem.
    When they publish data of any salmon recovery, commercial fisheries immediately jump on the run to beat it back.
    Everyone is watching these numbers and jumping on them as soon as they show any sign of recovery.
    There is a reason why our fisheries can't recover.
    Population pressures, commercial fisheries etc...
    We won't let them.



    Do you really think the government should keep wildlife population information a secret?

    Should this apply to moose and bears too, or just sockeye?

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    Arrow Re: Somas Sockeye Bulletin

    SOMASS SOCKEYE BULLETIN # 3 – 2020 Date: June 11, 2020

    Somass Sockeye Stock Assessment Update

    Pre-season forecast: Somass (Great Central and Sproat) – 169,000 Henderson Lake sockeye outlook < 15,000

    Escapement to June 10: Stamp: 1,030 Sproat: 7,219 Total: 8,249

    Test Fishery: Seine vessel Nita Maria testing June 7th - 8th estimated 3,000 inside 10 Mile Point and 9,000 outside.

    First in-season re-forecast: June 25th

    Catch Estimate: 211 Somass First Nations – 0 Maa-nulth First Nations – 0 Area D Gillnet – 0 Area B Seine - 0 Recreational – 0 Test Fishery - 211

    NEXT WEEK’S FISHING PLANS:

    All Fishing plans are subject to change depending on weekly meetings.

    First Nations

    Hupacasath & Tseshaht – Sockeye FSC closed, EO - closed.

    Maa-nulth – Sockeye Treaty closed

    Commercial

    Area D Gillnet – closed.

    Area B Seine – closed.

    Recreational

    Sockeye closed

    New Measures

    Due to lower than expected escapement of Sockeye the following areas are closed to all sectors for fishing for finfish effective 00:01h June 4, 2020 until midnight July 14, 2020:

    Portions of subarea 23-1 and subarea 23-2 from the tidal boundary signs at Paper Mill Dam in the Somass River then downstream south into the Inlet to Hocking Point light. Portions of the Freshwater section of the Somass River Region 1 from Somass Park to Paper Mill Dam.

    See Fishery Notices links below.

    FN 506 Finfish Closure upper Alberni Inlet
    FN 505 Portion of the freshwater section of the Somass River closed to fishing for salmon
    The above management measures may change on short notice depending on in-season information.

    For more info please call the Port Alberni DFO office at 250 720 4440
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVNNhzkJ-UU&feature=related

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