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    Re: Grizzly backup 45/70 or 12 gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by REMINGTON JIM View Post
    Never shot one ! so can't answer BUT i certainly Don't like a 2 SHOT gun for a bear attack ! RJ
    A couple of years ago I ha to crawl into a slash pile that a wounded bear crawled in, the guy who shot it "conveniently" didn't have his gun. When I got into the slash pile I cam literally face to face with Mr. Bear. I had my 325 and just soved it into his face and shot. Fortunately that was the end because if it hadn't been I never could have levered anothe round in time. I have now built a 45-70 Double Gun. I shoot 540 gr Train StoppersI think you know a little about them RJ lol. any African PHs might be on to something lol.
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    Re: Grizzly backup 45/70 or 12 gauge

    Jim that was no attack and a SXS in that situation was the best Maybe next to a GOOD semi auto !

    One thing for sure is MY 540 gr TRAIN STOPPERS will KILL ! RJ

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    Re: Grizzly backup 45/70 or 12 gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by REMINGTON JIM View Post
    SHIT Bullets BUT OK for lung shots on game while hunting BUT no good as a Shoulder Buster on a Big Bear ! The BETTER bullet by FAR is the Hornady 250 gr MONO FTX bullet -it way out penetrates the 325 FTX and it expands good too ! RJ
    Well that’s something I should try next then. Any real world experience example with those bullets?

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    Re: Grizzly backup 45/70 or 12 gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by KodiakHntr View Post
    I tend to look at that differently. The leverevolution stuff is designed for killing light game (deer) at extended ranges (200-ish yards). That hardcast load is for breaking bones and digging deep which is preferable in my books in a close range defensive situation. The LE stuff expands fast and dumps a lot of energy, and that would be great on a bear that is feeding and unaware of you. That energy dump will knock the wiggle out really fast. On a bear that knows you are there and you might not get the penetration required to persuade a bear that you aren’t worth messing with.


    My SBL will put 3 LeverEvolutions into one big ragged hole at 100yards and smashes deer dead, but I found them to not penetrate as much as I would like. I shot a couple wild pigs with them for giggles. One hog was square facing me and took a round exactly centered in the forehead and traveled a little way down the spinal column. A 60 yard shot that had a 325gr bullet stopped 15” into a 175lb hog. I have gotten better penetration with a 62 tsx from a 223.

    I want in a close up situation a bullet that will dig deep and bore straight. I don’t want something that expands fast and slows down faster. But thats just me.
    well give me your choice of bullet to try in a 45-70 for close up bear defense. I find the hard cast I’ve been using just passes through and the animal just keeps coming.

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    Re: Grizzly backup 45/70 or 12 gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by allan View Post
    well give me your choice of bullet to try in a 45-70 for close up bear defense. I find the hard cast I’ve been using just passes through and the animal just keeps coming.
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    Re: Grizzly backup 45/70 or 12 gauge

    I just loaded up some 400gr Speer with h4198. Started at minimum load for 1650fps and I’ll go up from there. These will be launched from a marlin dark series 16”. I remember loading these up in my old GBL at 1900fps and it was a nice stout load. For defence it’s my opinion you don’t need full house loads seeing how you going to be shooting inside 15yards
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    Re: Grizzly backup 45/70 or 12 gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by allan View Post
    Well that’s something I should try next then. Any real world experience example with those bullets?
    I only shot PINE and FIR with them BUT they penetrated Well and Expanded Nicely ! 2200 FPS RJ

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    Re: Grizzly backup 45/70 or 12 gauge

    I usually just pack my 243 and hunt with a partner that I know I can out run.

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    Re: Grizzly backup 45/70 or 12 gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by whitlers View Post
    I would say it doesn't really matter what action as long as you are proficient with it
    You said it .If you are a bolt gun person and your instinct is reach for the bolt ,don't switch to a leaver .How many times have you cycled your bolt in the heat of a situation and not remembered doing it ? Instinct is crucial in the heat of the moment. If you switch to a leaver practice practice practice .

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    Re: Grizzly backup 45/70 or 12 gauge

    Shot placement is a lot more important than calibre.

    Most guys would find the 45/70 does damage on both ends and that is not conducive to good shooting.

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