Thanks all... We have some good hunting around here with a lot of nice bucks. Not quite the caliber they take in Western Canada as far as top end bucks go, but close. We had a good year. We both filled our doe tags, my son killed a cow elk, and I killed an antelope buck and a nice 21" 4X4 whitetail buck.. The freezer is full (along with some walleye and pheasants)!!! I saw one of the biggest Muleys I've seen in years but he was on private land that is closed to hunting. I saw him a week earlier where I had permission to hunt, but it was right at last light and he was too far to make a stalk..we'll over 30" wide, which is a rarity around here...