New Law For Region 4 EK..

[hunter1947]

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https...quE22kARdnMcnM

(Only a proposal)
I will still put out trail cams but not salt blocks or bait..

[butcher]

Just a proposal at this point.

[hunter1947]

Just a proposal at this point.

Yes your correct just a proposal will see what happens in the near future ??

[rocksteady]

I call bs... no scientific evidence that salt blocks can contribute to the alleged spread of cwd...

Another knee jerk reaction..

[Caribou_lou]

I call bs... no scientific evidence that salt blocks can contribute to the alleged spread of cwd...

Another knee jerk reaction..

We seem to be past the days decisions are made off scientific data.

[RambleOn]

We seem to be past the days decisions are made off scientific data.

There's the truth.

[HarryToolips]

We seem to be past the days decisions are made off scientific data.

Ya it's a shame.....

[hunter1947]

(My thread link is only a proposal)
(Here is my take on feeding salt blocks to deer ,elk and other prey animals)

If implemented first off the cattleman feed salt to there cows all year round farmers feed salt to there horses as well ,etc and what's stopping elk and deer coming into the farmland
and licking the salt that is present the law would have to tell the farmers and cattleman no more salt allowed to put out.

Secountley is if the regs say no more salt allowed in region 4 what about all other regions in BC ??? if implemented the new law should state the whole BC not just region 4,same species
lick salt in all other regions same senorial ..

Science works most of the time but not all the time and what the management is saying that can cause diseases is a crock unless they can prove from science and they have solid
proof that deer elk etc can get densities.

I would think that management would have to fence off an area and put some deer ,elk in the pened area for many years and put out salt blocks year around for many year to see if there
science is correct..

All and all management should be more focused on controlling predators then worrying about what salt blocks might do to prey animals,,like I said show proof that salt will give diseases
prey and predators,,I would say that wolf numbers take more game animals then all hunters road kills do in a calendar year ..

All and all to do with the decline in prey animals is not salt blocks the cause management have to look in the mirror at themselves first on how they can bring back elk and deer numbers .

The way I see all on the reduced deer population fist off no more early junior season,,shorter deer season for mule deer GOS,,shorter elk season put GOS out of the rut for the elk season
Oct 10th for 4 weeks or on LEH in low populated area till numbers get established ,GOS for elk antler restrictions 3 point or better for the four week period..

Mule deer GOS Sept 10 closed Dec first WT deer can withstand the GOS that is in place they have a much better recover rate then mule deer do,,also need more back road closures throughout
BC..

Pushing new roads into remote areas for logging taking the big timber out that is wintering range for prey animals I know that loggers have to make a living but a factore on wildlife as for
making it more accessible for motorized units to enter further back into remote areas making it more easy for wolf packs to travel on these roads,,many hunter would be surprised on how
much wolfs travel all logging roads to look for prey animals..

Management have to do something to control the wolf population in order to bring back the deer,elk population wolf population is # one factor why prey animals are low in numbers,,wolf population has exploded in BC
in big number.
My thoughts on bag limit for wolves ,,unlimited bag limit for wolves year round and no elevation limit for wolves until wolf population is under control ,,management have in place compulsory inspection in parts of regions
in BC I would like to see this canned and put a 200.00 dollar bounty on wolves when dropped off to management would give more encouragement for hunters to go out nd hunt for wolves..

One good thing about wolves is they control the coyote population ,,coyotes take down lots of deer in a calendar year and domestic animals ,,a few times over the years when shed hunting I have come across wt deer that
have been killed by only one coyote the deer was still all in tack and still warm the snow tells me there was only one coyote that took this wt deer down.

I see all this because of having trail cams out in the regions and spending countless hours in the mountains,,cattleman having there cows out in high low elevations on crown land eating all the vegetation up is another factor
on declining prey population.

All and all its a big circle on everything why our prey animals have declined and I am far from knowing it all but this is what my thoughts are to help bring back prey animals like it or not..

[Jagermeister]

I call bs... no scientific evidence that salt blocks can contribute to the alleged spread of cwd...

Another knee jerk reaction..

I would not be so quick to say that. It would not surprise if it is revealed that CWD can be transmitted through saliva.

I would be more concerned about the proposal to eliminate the cow elk LEH. This LEH amounts to the possible harvest of 32 cow elk out of an estimated population of 6970 elk according to a 2018 East Kootenay Trench survey. These 32 antlerless elk account for less than 0.5% of the entire herd population. Do you think that dropping this hunt will make a significant impact on the recovery of the dwindling elk populations? I don't think so. It will take drastic measures to curtail the decline and those drastic measures will need to be: 1. Re-instating the grizzly hunt; 2. serious attempt to cull wolves and 3. drastic reduction in the length of the hunting season. I am not in favor of the latter because once the herd recovers, the season will stay shortened so the numbers 1 and 2 are the only viable options.
The East Kootenay Trench probably has the highest grizzly bear population density on the North American continent.

[hunter1947]

I would not be so quick to say that. It would not surprise if it is revealed that CWD can be transmitted through saliva.

I would be more concerned about the proposal to eliminate the cow elk LEH. This LEH amounts to the possible harvest of 32 cow elk out of an estimated population of 6970 elk according to a 2018 East Kootenay Trench survey. These 32 antlerless elk account for less than 0.5% of the entire herd population. Do you think that dropping this hunt will make a significant impact on the recovery of the dwindling elk populations? I don't think so. It will take drastic measures to curtail the decline and those drastic measures will need to be: 1. Re-instating the grizzly hunt; 2. serious attempt to cull wolves and 3. drastic reduction in the length of the hunting season. I am not in favor of the latter because once the herd recovers, the season will stay shortened so the numbers 1 and 2 are the only viable options.
The East Kootenay Trench probably has the highest grizzly bear population density on the North American continent.

Well we will see what does happen in the years to come if this new proposal is implemented no baiting with salt etc..

I know that science has not come out and said that if saliva is transmitted to others if a deer or other lick the salt block,,my thoughts is why don't they cull a deer that
has CWD put it in a pended area and cull a deer that does not have CWD..

Over the months or a year find out if the deer with no CWD gets this disease that the two deer are licking off the salt block have a camera to know that both deer are
licking the salt block over this period of time then science has did this job to me that's proof..

If science test does prove that this test with the culled deer in the pended area gives DWD to the other then I would think that the ban in the entire BC no salt baiting etc .

This law would have to be in force with cattlemen as well and farmers etc..

My thoughts is management does not have the funding to make science work a real shame ,,science only works if money is not an issue..