Salmon Escape Fish Farm

[dougan]

Playing devils advocate here: Could that be because the only people researching fish farms are either the groups you mentioned or fish farm corporations themselves? Research requires money, and researchers try not to bite the hand that feeds...

That could be very true but let’s say you are correct and for arguments sake meet in the middle of both of them . Probably nowhere near as bad as they claim . I’ve been fishing salmon my entire life and I don’t notice any more or less sea lice now than I did in the 80,s. Prv could come from seal shit for all I know. Stop fishing hearing would be far more productive than eliminating fish farms for our salmon stocks imho.

[Livewire322]

That could be very true but let’s say you are correct and for arguments sake meet in the middle of both of them . Probably nowhere near as bad as they claim . I’ve been fishing salmon my entire life and I don’t notice any more or less sea lice now than I did in the 80,s. Prv could come from seal shit for all I know. Stop fishing hearing would be far more productive than eliminating fish farms for our salmon stocks imho.

There is always merit to saying that there are three sides to every story.

In this his case I have insight on all sides of the argument.
My father was a manager with Stholts (now Marine Harvest) for 25 years.
My fiancé worked as a research assistant for a lab doing research with Marine Harvest.
I, like you, have fished my whole life and don’t think that there are more sea lice now than before.

From my perspective it may not as bad as the eco warriors say. That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t be heavily pushing towards land based aquaculture.

[mpotzold]

For starters-

Is Farmed Salmon Bad for You?
https://www.onemedical.com/blog/eat-well/farmed-salmon

A 2004 study.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life...ticle20426983/

5 Reasons to Avoid Farm-Raised Salmon – and Why Wild Salmon Is Better
https://blog.daveasprey.com/farm-rai...s-wild-salmon/

[dougan]

For starters-

Is Farmed Salmon Bad for You?
https://www.onemedical.com/blog/eat-well/farmed-salmon

A 2004 study.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life...ticle20426983/

5 Reasons to Avoid Farm-Raised Salmon – and Why Wild Salmon Is Better
https://blog.daveasprey.com/farm-rai...s-wild-salmon/

where are all of the wild salmon that are going to fill the void left behind from farmed fish??? Globe and mail is just pushing agendas. All media reports are bias just the way it is.

[ryanonthevedder]

How many smolts do you catch in a year dougan? I don’t catch any, but the folks that go looking for them certainly have evidence that the closer they get to the pens the more lice they tend to pick up... but that’s why slice is so popular albeit with degrading efficacy.

then of course there is prv (picene reo virus) that has been shown to cause mortality in Chinook and coho which also concentrates near the pens. The virus has yet to demonstrate mortality in sockeye though.

https://www.psf.ca/news-media/prv-vi...chinook-salmon

arguing that farmed fish have no negative effect on wild fish is like saying that the spread of cwd had nothing to do with farmed deer and elk. Also no different than the spread of bird flu or African swine fever between wild and farm stock. It’s just the ways she goes mate.

[.264winmag]

This has been happening for decades, I remember slaying Atlantic’s in the little west WCVI rivers over 20 years ago. You just didn’t hear about the nets falling apart on the news. They are sterile but apparently hammer the wild smolts in the rivers though. They are actually very good eating after they’ve been in the wild and ‘flushed’ out their system. Very aggressive feeders as well, fight great. Should be some good winter Atlantic fishin up north island HA

[S.W.A.T.]

Why don't they farm Pacific fish is my question

[S.W.A.T.]

Lice are becoming way more prominent in northern waters. Hard to set traps and not get a bucket of sea lice in the bait

[.264winmag]

Why don't they farm Pacific fish is my question

Turn over rate to slow, Atlantic’s reach the prime market size the quickest. And farming a pacific salmon species would not be any safer than Atlantic’s, in an open net pen that is.

[S.W.A.T.]

Turn over rate to slow, Atlantic’s reach the prime market size the quickest. And farming a pacific salmon species would not be any safer than Atlantic’s, in an open net pen that is.

But they aren't invasive