Deer Inspection Region 4

[Pioneerman]

Animal broken down does not change the regs and rules. So you have to keep a patch of fur intact why not the proof of sex. Many years ago we got stopped in Chetwynd with two moose in my camper. We had to pull out the quarters and they inspected them and we also forgot to leave proof attached. We did have the heads with racks in truck also, so they were fresh, but could have been used ten times as far as they know. One CO was digging fat out of the pelvic area and checking that for some reason. So I asked the other CO what is the purpose of that. He said the fat text is different on cow than bull in that area. I said can you not see a difference in bone structure one being able to pass a calf and the other not being able. He saw other garbage bags in the camper and asked to see them. I laughed and said sure, they are actual garbage we did not leave any out there and picked up two full ones from last hunters camped there. He quickly opened two of them, one was our garbage and the other was all dirty and wet with some snow on it from laying around in camp site. Lucky for us , he believed we the two moose we had and they were bulls, and he said I could give you a find for not proof of sex, but since you brought out your trash and picked up others we appreciate that and have safe drive home. So always have proof, or bring lots of garbage lol

[J_T]

We were stopped between Creston/Cranbrook by fed conservation officers doing roadside inspections. There was a few interesting issues:

1. Ticketed for not keeping testicles attached to the deer even though it was broken down into small pieces in the field before being packed out and we retained the skull.

2. Told that I had to give up the head for cwd inspection and it would not be returned.

3. Told I needed a tag for wolf and the max was one.

Think I will challenge the ticket - I understand the reg but if the deer is broken down and deboned, retaining skull and antlers is equal proof. They also didnt inspect the meat bags - a little too bloody for the bird guys. Curious what others think.

1. Correct. Must keep evidence on all portions of meat. We watch a lot of videos of guys breaking animals into manageable meat parts, but in BC, we have unique requirements about evidence. You also need to keep the tail attached. Head, dick and tail.
2. Correct. The actions being taken to monitor CWD intrusion have been well advertised. Everyone knows, in R4 and 7, in specified MU's you are required to drop off the head. There are locations provided and you can submit the required portion and still keep any antlers if you require.
3. There is no species licence for wolves. In some areas of R4 there is NBL for wolves. Otherwises it's 3.

[butthead]

read the regs
understand the reg
follow the regs to the T
break the rules
pay the price
when caught

[GreyDog]

Rules are rules but stupid is stupid. I know of no hunter who has passed on a big buck because he couldn't see a penis or testicles. This is largely why they had seasons for antlered and anterless rather than bucks and does and it is why no one was ever charged for shooting an antlered doe. If the animal is boned out and the meat packed in bags, you leave the evidence of sex attached to what exactly? Does a small piece of meat suffice? If the evidence of sex is attached to one piece of meat, is the rest of the meat still legal? Does this mean an animal cannot be dismembered? Are we expected to pack an elk out in one piece? Overzealous interpretation of regulations will only breed contempt for the regulations and enforcement personell. GD

[tigrr]

They ticket everything they can. Have to pay wages for the day.
I have met some good CO's and some not so good.

[guest]

Wierd on the wolf statement. There are NO tags required for residents.
IMO. Sorry but rules r rules. Its NO issue leaving the dick or balls on a 1/4. No big deal at all. Back packed out Bucks, Bulls, Rams and Billys, all had either the dick, balls or both still attached. We also left a tiny piece of hair on each part, yes its extreme but can be done. Recently the tail must be included, again no big deal. Know the regs and follow them. And of course bring out the headgear. As for getting it back, id follow that up.
As for sampling the critter for CWD, again, whats the big deal, some regions and MUs have specific rules. Know them and follow them.

[HighCountryBC]

It’s not difficult to leave evidence of sex attached to a hind-quarter of an animal. It’s clearly laid out in the regulations as well. You will lose your challenge.

[sako79]

I just came back from the kootenays with a whitetail I left the tail and the sex on as per regulations
Stated

[Wentrot]

I just came back from the kootenays with a whitetail I left the tail and the sex on as per regulations
Stated

Well done boehm

[dracb]

Recent change in regulations. I add here because I find most hunters I speak with have not bothered to read the synopsis.

NOTE: To improve enforceability and
simplify regulations, the option to use
antlers to prove sex and species while
transporting harvested wildlife is no longer
available. Please refer to the section below
for the new requirements while transporting
harvested wildlife from the kill location
to a meatcutter, owner or operator of a
cold storage plant, or the hunters normal
dwelling place. A person must, while
returning from hunting, keep the antlers
or horns of wildlife killed during an antler/
horn restricted season (i.e., 6 pt, full curl,
spike-fork, etc.) and the species licence
under which the wildlife was killed, together
and available for inspection by an officer.
(1) For caribou, elk or moose, the
animal’s tail or another readily
identifiable part of the hide not less
than 6 cm2, AND:
(i) If the animal is male, a testicle
or part of the penis,
(ii) If the animal is female, a
portion of the udder or teats.
(2) For deer, the unskinned tail, AND:
(i) If the animal is male, a testicle or
part of the penis,
(ii) If the animal is female, a portion
of the udder and teats.
(3) For bison, mountain goat or mountain
sheep:
(i) If the animal is male, a testicle
or part of the penis.
(ii) If the animal is female, a
portion of the udder or teats.