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    Now it's the goats turn....

    https://www.cheknews.ca/mountain-goa...-study-975338/


    Mountain goat population declining in British Columbia: study

    VANCOUVER — British Columbia’s central coast is losing an animal of significant cultural value to the region’s Indigenous people as fewer mountain goats are seen in its craggy peaks, says a new study.
    The study published Tuesday in the open-access peer-reviewed journal Conservation Science and Practice also highlighted the importance of listening to Indigenous Peoples because they first noticed a decline in the population years ago.
    Douglas Neasloss, chief councillor of the First Nation, which participated in the study, said he’s been watching the decline for more than 20 years in its territory.
    “Mountain goats are really important,” Neasloss said in an interview.
    “We use the mountain goat in our songs, our dances, in our stories. Certainly a big part of our food, a big part of our diet. It was often used for trade amongst nations in the central coast.”
    Tyler Jessen, the lead author of the study, said researchers from the University of Victoria and the Raincoast Conservation Foundation used a combination of data compiled by the First Nation since the 1980s along with other methods to track the mountain goat population.
    An aerial survey of about 500 square kilometres of Kitasoo Xai’xais Nation territory was undertaken in the summers of 2019 and 2020 to understand population density, he said.
    “There’s not many goats that are in that coastal area, especially when you compare it to the interior populations like the Rocky Mountains,” said Jessen, a PhD student at the University of Victoria and a scholar with the Raincoast Conservation Foundation.

    Researchers also looked at British Columbia hunting records dating back to 1980, he said. The records showed hunters are less successful at hunting mountain goats now or that it takes them longer to find one.
    “People would typically see them from the water on a boat while fishing or while working,” he said. “You could just look up and you could see mountain goats on the cliffs in these coastal fiord systems. But not anymore.”
    A lack of baseline information means researchers weren’t able to quantify the change in population, Jessen said.
    British Columbia has about 50 per cent of the world’s mountain goats but numbers on the animals are hard to come by because there’s limited research and they’re difficult to study in the remote areas they inhabit, he added.
    “One of the things that we are trying to highlight is how Indigenous knowledge and Indigenous Peoples can act as sentinels of this change,” he said.
    “We’re not monitoring a lot, but there’s still people who are living there who can point to these changes.”
    The study said early warnings from Indigenous Peoples in one area can potentially uncover what’s happening on a larger scale.
    “In this case, early concerns by the Kitasoo Xai’xais First Nation triggered investigations that revealed evidence of potential decline in goats well beyond Kitasoo Xai’xais First Nation territory,” said the study.

    The causes for the decline, Jessen said, include global warming, hunting and attacks by predators. Mountain goats reproduce slowly and are sensitive to any human disturbance, he said.
    Neasloss said the Kitasoo Xai’xais First Nation has stopped hunting mountain goats to help preserve the population.
    “I’m almost 40 now,” he said.
    “I used to be a tour guide. I used to walk out in the territory every day for seven months of the year and I used to see lots of mountain goats. I haven’t seen one in years. What a sharp turn in the last 20 years. So, if we lose the mountain goat, that will just be devastating both culturally and ecologically.”

    This report by The Canadian Press was first published March 9, 2022.

    Hina Alam, The Canadian Press
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    Re: Now it's the goats turn....

    A study, i call Bullsh$t, all political as usual.
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    Re: Now it's the goats turn....

    Goat hunters can kiss their hunts goodbye. Get at it before it is too late. We all will be hunting dodo birds soon.

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    Think under the recent Gbear thread I told many that this would happen or will be soon.
    The best part is, they still mention hunting.
    Although, again, many areas are under LEH anyways and have been for years, yet still declines.
    Wait how it works out for the RMBH sheep.
    IT will still decline under LEH also, as there is enough proof of that as well.

    Maybe we should just release wild boars and give a big F U to all those other user groups that are helping cause the issues more
    so than hunters.

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    Re: Now it's the goats turn....

    Misleading headline - it seems to indicate that it's a province-wide decline, when in fact it's a study in one area where goats live. Also this, buried in the story ... "A lack of baseline information means researchers weren't able to quantify the change in population."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuervosail View Post
    Misleading headline - it seems to indicate that it's a province-wide decline, when in fact it's a study in one area where goats live. Also this, buried in the story ... "A lack of baseline information means researchers weren't able to quantify the change in population."

    Exactly. Guess what the problem is though? People today are TOO STUPID to read past the headline.
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    Re: Now it's the goats turn....

    How can they even be allowed to publish this crap......a non scientific study done by researchers with an agenda. Like above said....done with a lack of baseline information!

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    Re: Now it's the goats turn....

    They won't be happy tell we have nothing. July I'm moving to yukon .
    BritishColumbia can kiss my ass
    KEEP SHOOTING OR SHOOT A BIG GUN!!!!
    IF YOU DON'T HUNT YOU AINT RIGHT IN THE HEAD!!!!!!!!!
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    KNOW WHEN TO KEEP THE WIFE OUT OF MY HUNTING SPOTS !!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Now it's the goats turn....

    Recognize that this is Raincoast in action.

    Another biased babystep to influence public drama for profit, the end of hunting being inclusive with their goals.

    When the government is next amicable towards hunters, there needs to be a change in the Outfitter's Policy, where Outfitter's MUST reach harvest quotas or lose their tenure. Eliminate one of Raincoast's greatest financial sources...

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