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  1. #31
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    Re: The burn

    Quote Originally Posted by 45freezer View Post
    I was actually thinking the fur looked more like chest blaze fur than sun bleached fur, most of the videos I had seen of bears rubbing on trees have been just using it like a back scratcher though so wondered if they did rub their chest at all too. It was a good sized tree though, about 4-5" across. Didn't look freshly broken, lots of fur in the sap though, some black, some white and some brown/blonde so probably multiple bears hitting it.
    Just to give an idea what is going on... I don't think I have any videos of my own but found some others on YouTube. Look for the broken ones though when you're out vs looking for hair on every sapling. There's something magic about the broken ones. I don't know what it means. I speculate it's when you have multiple boars competing they get a bit aggressive with the on the scent markers and saplings get hurt. The aggressive bear started breaking saplings all round my immediate camp and places I'd walk through. It was annoying because I knew it would tip off other hunters, so I'd cut off the broken part and toss them, but that only seemed to escalate things.

    And you're 100% right that multiple bears hit the same ones year after year.

    Anyway, these are a good watch... straddle marking:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBF__dHACu8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If3VX-J0Sjk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AmTy2I1goM

    Grizz breaking a small tree... not sure if it is for marking reasons or not:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwY5Pzrlsew

    Unrelated, but here's a bear taking a tree down for different reasons (presumably bugs) impressive and fun to watch. I don't think this is the first go at falling big timber LOL

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHPx_cFKOc
    Last edited by caddisguy; 05-22-2019 at 03:31 PM.

  2. #32
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    Re: The burn

    Very good writeup and pics, not a failed hunt by any means....yes that pellet poop was moose, I'm guessing from over the winter, they like to hang out on roads/paths over the winter lined with alder - food and easier travel...beware of false morel mushrooms ok, though if you google them you can usually tell the difference...

  3. #33
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    Re: The burn

    Quote Originally Posted by caddisguy View Post
    Just to give an idea what is going on... I don't think I have any videos of my own but found some others on YouTube. Look for the broken ones though when you're out vs looking for hair on every sapling. There's something magic about the broken ones. I don't know what it means. I speculate it's when you have multiple boars competing they get a bit aggressive with the on the scent markers and saplings get hurt. The aggressive bear started breaking saplings all round my immediate camp and places I'd walk through. It was annoying because I knew it would tip off other hunters, so I'd cut off the broken part and toss them, but that only seemed to escalate things.

    And you're 100% right that multiple bears hit the same ones year after year.

    Anyway, these are a good watch... straddle marking:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBF__dHACu8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If3VX-J0Sjk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AmTy2I1goM

    Grizz breaking a small tree... not sure if it is for marking reasons or not:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwY5Pzrlsew

    Unrelated, but here's a bear taking a tree down for different reasons (presumably bugs) impressive and fun to watch. I don't think this is the first go at falling big timber LOL

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHPx_cFKOc
    Ya looking at those videos I would put my money on a griz snapping this tree, I'm probably wrong for referring to it as a sapling, wasn't quite as big as the one the griz in that video broke but closer to that size than any of the little Christmas trees...snapped off at just under 6ft. Definitely saw some jet black fur in the sap and some of it was totally white like a BB chest blaze, not sure if grizzlies get those as well but I can't recall ever seeing one that had a white patch in photos. Would have been cool to put a cam up there but I had only packed one in and figured I would get more info throwing it up on the other game trails since the bears use those too. Will post a photo when I get home later but there was a mulie rub right there that I'm assuming was made this year, all the branches below the rub had live pine needles on them and all the branches above it were dead. Is it possible for trees to live indefinitely below the bark damage or does it usually kill the entire tree within the year?
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    Re: The burn

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryToolips View Post
    Very good writeup and pics, not a failed hunt by any means....yes that pellet poop was moose, I'm guessing from over the winter, they like to hang out on roads/paths over the winter lined with alder - food and easier travel...beware of false morel mushrooms ok, though if you google them you can usually tell the difference...
    I know it's hard to say but how far away do you think they might be in October? Higher elevation? Lower? Don't know a whole lot about moose but that's a long term goal for sure, was always my uncle's game of choice and his stories about hunting big bulls and the racks I saw in his garage were a large part of my inspiration as a child to get out there and experience the process of hunting myself. Unfortunately his hunting days are long over so I'm stuck carving my own path.

    Yes my son went to cut it in half right away to make sure it was the real deal, I could see the stem was hollow as soon as he harvested it though so I was still able to get an intact trophy photo haha. I'm assuming the black is because it's a bit old? Wasn't dried out or mushy at all... would definitely like to time it better next year though now that I have a better idea where to look. Was growing out of the leaves on the side of the road, would that maybe be a better place to focus on than inside the burn itself or was that maybe more just luck? I was reading that mulies eat morels and there was definitely sign from them up there but all in the burn, none on the roads. I'm sure bears would eat them as well?
    Last edited by 45freezer; 05-23-2019 at 05:37 PM.
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