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    BC Provincial Court Judgment on Crawford Stones ram

    "I am fascinated by the wild, rough country where sheep are found. I love the long-continued excitement of the stalk. I even enjoy the disappointments and the frustrations, those stalks that go astray when the sheep have moved, and the wind changes". - JOC

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    Re: BC Provincial Court Judgment on Crawford Stones ram

    Interesting read. #43 region 6 Bio feels its important to state he has hunted Stone's Sheep. No mention of a harvest.

    I feel for the kid. Many grown men out there will go their whole life without harvesting a Ram. He should be proud of his harvest. Hope he gets back on that mountain and fills another tag!

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    Re: BC Provincial Court Judgment on Crawford Stones ram

    For all those that ask where to go for Stone's ram - now you have access to one specific drainage name that obviously produces rams....

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    Re: BC Provincial Court Judgment on Crawford Stones ram

    So what's the next step now? Does this kid get charged for harvesting an illegal ram? Does he get the title of "poacher" even though we're all certain the ram was of age despite a little horn wear and tear.

    If the courts found this ram not legal for harvest and the defense couldn't prove otherwise, then a penalty should be paid and someone shouldn't be able to hunt for a few years. Is this not what we would expect?

    Look, I'm not saying the kid did anything wrong but perhaps after all the hard work to get to this animal, someone was a little too anxious to fill their tag. Maybe there was enough horn length prior to the shot and a bit wore off in the tumble after the shot. Regardless, if it's that close or questionable to being a legal ram, the decision to pass or shoot should have been "Pass". Easy to say this in hindsight but if this kid was FN (for example) the hunting community would be all over this one. I feel terrible for the kid but regulations are in place for a reason.

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    Re: BC Provincial Court Judgment on Crawford Stones ram

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbart View Post
    For all those that ask where to go for Stone's ram - now you have access to one specific drainage name that obviously produces rams....
    SSSHHHH ...... The power of Social Media ... Sure it will be a busy place this fall .
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    Re: BC Provincial Court Judgment on Crawford Stones ram

    Quote Originally Posted by 358mag View Post
    SSSHHHH ...... The power of Social Media ... Sure it will be a busy place this fall .
    As if this is a new spot, unknown before
    Never say whoa in the middle of a mud hole

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    Re: BC Provincial Court Judgment on Crawford Stones ram

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbart View Post
    For all those that ask where to go for Stone's ram - now you have access to one specific drainage name that obviously produces rams....
    Anybody who believes that ram cams from there is a fool! Nobody is dumb enough to advertise that

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    Re: BC Provincial Court Judgment on Crawford Stones ram

    Quote Originally Posted by backcountry99 View Post
    Anybody who believes that ram cams from there is a fool! Nobody is dumb enough to advertise that
    So are you saying the hunter gave false information on his report.
    Under age ram (according to regs) didnt bring out jaw/teeth and false information (if what your suggesting is true)
    makes things not look so good.

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    Re: BC Provincial Court Judgment on Crawford Stones ram

    Quote Originally Posted by LBM View Post
    So are you saying the hunter gave false information on his report.
    Under age ram (according to regs) didnt bring out jaw/teeth and false information (if what your suggesting is true)
    makes things not look so good.
    im saying hunters are secretive by nature and nobody would publish were they killed a ram in a public document like that unless there was evidence of were he killed him. Really doesn’t matter but all the comments on were to go next year make me laugh.

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    Re: BC Provincial Court Judgment on Crawford Stones ram

    Wow. Now I know why I dont sheep hunt.

    One question on the findings, there was a failure to submit an incisor tooth. Would this have definatively confirmed the Rams age?
    Last edited by Ron.C; 05-16-2019 at 01:23 PM.

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